Discussion: Obama On Jeb's 'Stuff Happens' Remark: I Don't Even 'Have To React To That One'

[gelfling545]

I dread the time when he is not. We have become accustomed to maturity & competence at a level few can reach.

[darcy]

“Our founding principle was the equality of all human beings.”

Yes it was but the problem at the time, as it’s said I think in Animal Farm, we’re all created equal but some are more equal than others. The 3/5 clause confirms it as did reality. It would be like asking Big Pharma to give up all it’s cash cow patents and go generic - for the good of the country. I mean how many of the signers didn’t own slaves? Think it was around 20%. Christ, General Washington was one of the more abusive slave owners.

Hey, but what’s the big deal? Bernie or Hillary will keep a Republican out of the WH. That’s what’s most important.

[sniffit]

You’re doing nothing but playing semantic games with that nonsense. It is abundantly clear that the “principles” of which you speak…as high-minded and lofty as they are and as much as we all love some of them…were only believed to apply to certain people actually considered to actually BE people. There’s a reason for that, and that reason itself is a principle. Care to guess it?

[suicide_arsonist]

I see your eat shit, and raise you one Vice-Presidential bird-flipping (with a Dole cameo).

[chammy]

Hey, but what’s the big deal? Bernie or Hillary will keep a Republican out of the WH. That’s what’s most important.

Now you’re talking

[alliebean]

byejeb!

Fixed it. Needed the punctuation

[jalus]

"Look, stuff happens.…" Jeb in response to a question about gun control and the Oregon college massacre,

You’re right, Jeb …"stuff happens."

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You know what’s not going to happen …

you becoming the 3rd bad president from the same family.

[littlegirlblue]

So many lives not being lived are represented in this picture. It’s more than heartbreaking. They are not simply “stuff” which can be trivialized. Thanks for that.

[darcy]

We’re talking about leadership professor. Let’s leave out compassion, patience and good looks and a great smile. People like Kennedy, LBJ and non politicos like Judge John Sirica all had leadership in that they weren’t afraid to take a stand even if it were to cost them personally and their party votes, or with Sirica, his reputation. You know, like FDR with “I welcome their hate” moment. I don’t see any fight in Obama except when he went ahead, when told it was too risky, and bailed out Detroit and the auto industry. That was his one moment of courage and conviction - IMO. He blinked when he bailed out the banks, hiding behind the like of Geithner and Larry Summers. And now with the slaughtering of children and students he simply implies the obvious: I’m outraged but I can’t do anything about it. “I don’t have the votes” is what Obama is all about. He’s our dear friend but far from our leader.

[plooka32]

When Jeb either drops out or gets his arse handed to him next November, we should ALL flood his page with two words:

STUFF HAPPENS.

[emilianoelmexicano]

My thoughts on Jeb Bush

1, If Jeb Bush speaking Spanish has relevance for Latinos, then Bill O’Reilly speaking English should
endear him to African Americans

2. Jeb Bush has “presidential” height. So does Walt Disney’s “Goofy”

3. Jeb Bush has a man elected to the Presidency as a brother. So did Billy Carter

4. A Bush-Rubio ticket guarantees Florida. For Democrats

5. As clownish as Dubya was, he DID have a certain “folksiness”. Jeb’s only folksiness is in his
   made-up first name. It should be a name like Smedley to capture his level of folksiness

6. We are getting to the point, when we think about the Bushes, that we tend to free-associate with
   other Crime Families and the names “Fredo” and “Sonny” come to mind

[plooka32]

Stuff happens is a complete surrender to the problem. It’s a capitulation to mass shootings and gun violence.

What I take from it is … innocent lives do not matter. They are not more important than my right to own a weapon that can spray 30-40 bullets in two seconds. It’s a blow-off phrase, a shrug to us all.

[becca656]

Obama can now start using the bully pulpit to beat up on the Republicans and a few Democrats for recalcitrance, bone-headed and purely political ends.

And that’s pretty much what Obama said he would do, in response of the inaction of Congress on the gun issue. He said he would be politicizing it because it was the only thing he could do to get the GOP away from all the obstruction. Then, let the American people see who’s doing the job they were elected to vs. not.

[pbw]

It’s hard to have “leadership” when you’re herding cats. At a four-way intersection.

[micaiah]

Show a little respect to others that disagree with you.

It’s not that you disagreed, Darcy, it’s that your comment was entirely gratuitous. The president had a good day. On that, your overall character assessment is irrelevant.

[chammy]

e blinked when he bailed out the banks, hiding behind the like of Geithner and Larry Summers.

Excuse me. The banks were bailed out by Bush before Obama took office. It was Paulson who gave them the money with no conditions.

[chammy]

My thoughts on Jeb Bush

And he looks and acts and carries himself like a goofus. I expect Golly Gee to come out of his mouth at any time

[darcy]

Couldn’t agree more. That’s why they call it leadership. Consider Eisenhower when he was planning for the D-Day Invasion and had to rely on a break in the weather that was determined by a young meteorologist - and at the same time dealing with the ego of General Patton. And let’s not forget, Eisenhower had a terrible temper.

[rev]

Our founding principle was the equality of all human beings.

Hmm… then I wonder why it took so long for half the non-slave population to gain the right to vote? Or maybe they didn’t think women were human beings? Actually they mostly referred to propertied white males as “all human beings”. Sanders is quite correct.

[overreach_this]

I really ask, do you have to go back to Lincoln to meet his league?