Discussion: Obama: New Overtime Pay Rule Is A 'Win' For Working Families

[House Speaker Paul Ryan criticized the rule, saying it hurt “the very people it alleges to help,” such as students and employees working at non-profits.]

The quote leaves off his final remark:

“That’s why we will not do a damn thing.”

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Damn straight Prez. This is a very big win in the face of Congress’ determined opposition. The OT laws have been unchanged since the 1970’s. Companies have systematically exploited the rules on OT to the disadvantage of their employees. Good on ya!

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If Paul Ryan disagrees with it, then it must be great for working people!! Thank you, Mr. President.

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House Speaker Paul Ryan criticized the rule, saying it hurt “the very people it alleges to help,” such as students and employees working at non-profits.

The Republican plan to help “those people” is to drive wages down cheaper than Haiti’s 31 cents an hour so that we have full employment. I mean, after all, at that price, it’s cheaper to have people sweep the streets by hand rather than to have one of those job-killing machine thingies. Work with Dignity for All!

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The new overtime rule is definitely a win for working families. It doesn’t help me, though, because my employer classified me as management at a fairly low salary to avoid paying me overtime for the 5-15 hours per week that I work over and above 40 hours. I’m not in a position to do anything about it right now because I’m 6 months shy of retirement, and I need the job. I wonder how many other people are in the same position–illegally classified as exempt and not in a position to report it for some period of time.

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The Galtian Overlord refrain: “This rule will only hurt the very people we’ve been assfucking because markets!”

Why they might have to cut back on forced unpaid overtime and hire more people to work those extra hours. How can we compete with countries where wage theft and slavery are legal with this heavy hand of government oppression weighing us down?

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Seriously though, when is the last time a GOP-led House did anything to help the working class? Anything at all.

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Perhaps that’s why their approval rating is nearly zero and the POTUS has a 51-45 approval rating.

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Bizarre how working families dislike Obama so much to be against working families if he’s for working families. I know guys who punch a clock and cherish their own overtime who tell me overtime is a BAD idea in this case.

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Well, remember when they supported Citizen Worker Trump’s bogus OB Birth Certificate Canard because…er, racist hatred for strategic political capital? How did that work out for them anyway?

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There is an odd kind of smug servility and cultural prostration in the attitudes of many in the American working class toward the rentier class and rentier capitalism. It’s epitomized in the old aphorism: “I ain’t never got no job from no poor man.”

As someone coming from a heritage of Welsh coal miners (my dad escaped owing to WW II), it is perplexing to see miners in West Virginia in obeisance to Mining companies and owners when my forebears knew who the “enemy” was and that the relationship was inherently adversarial.

I am a little collier and gweithio (labor) underground
The raff (rope). will never torri (break) when I go up and down
It’s bara (bread) when I’m hungry
And cwrw (beer) when I’m dry
It’s gwely (bed) when I’m tired
And nefoedd (heaven) when I die

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Ryan doesn’t give two flying monkey bleeps about students and employees working at non-profits.

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Well said.

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Again, executive overreach. I really don’t think he had the power to do this.

It is certainly within the purview of the Department of Labor to define the status of exempt and non-exempt employment within the context of fair labor standards. The rules apply to all businesses, and are crafted after public discussion and business input.

The only executive “overreaching” is that the President gives a damn about families, and doesn’t just pretend it’s okay for our businesses to hire slave labor.

Remember, businesses are perfectly free to have people work less than 40 hours without penalty.

Nobody cherishes unpaid overtime. Not sure what your point is but if it’s an anecdote about someone you know that is meant to prove something universal please understand that it never does.

Republicans love to use anecdotes to prove their argument because facts never do.

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