Discussion: Obama: Iraq Is 'Going To Need Help From Us'

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But but but. John McCain said……

This is the war that never ends,
Yes it goes on and on my friends.

– In loving honor of George W. Bush

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“We do have a stake in making sure that these jihadists are not getting a permanent foothold in either Iraq or Syria for that matter,” he said.

Is this another “red line” Mr. President?

Where were you for the past months/years? Many people did warn you about this upcoming mess with years to spare.

Send John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Dick Cheney and William Kristol. Then, WHEN they get captured leave THEM behind…

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Indeed. I screamed my head off before Bush and his cabal of thugs wrangled us into this bloody clusterfuck 11 years ago.

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please stay out of bush’s war… the republicans just want you involved so they can blame you for the iraq war and take the blame off of bush and themselves.

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You do realize that all of you that wanted to go to war over the “red line” in Syria would have had us at war on the side of the jihadists that are now are threatening Bagdhad? Or is that too complicated for you? I wouldn’t bring up red lines if I were you.

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many people warned bush that this was going to happen when he started this illegal war. now you want to put the blame on obama? we should apologize to iraq and all the people of the world… for bush’s big mistake… send bush/cheney et all to the hague and let what ever happens in iraq happen…

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We’ve never not going to be at war, it appears.

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We shouldn’t have gone in there in the first place, and the Iraqis eventually kicked us out. We should not go back into the obvious civil war that should have decided to split the country into 3 regions (Kurd, Sunni, Shiite) during Bush’s fiasco. Stay the hell out of this corrupt and tribal country.

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We broke it, so guess what, we’re headed back to Iraq, in one way, shape, or form.

My only question is, who’s available to fight? Will the Millennials step up? Let’s make it fair and have a draft. Maybe this will be a way for students to work off their school loans. The Senate certainly can’t oppose that.

But the reality is, no matter what President Obama decides the tea party Congress will oppose him.

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lets see

iraq/bush= no wmds thousands americans killed trillions spent

syria/obama=had wmds and obama disarmed them without one america life lost and no military involvement trillons saved

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And how do you propose to “help” them, and what exactly do you expect the result to be long term?

Same song, save verse, a little be louder, and a little be worse.

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Ally with Iran and let that country do the heavy lifting, let the Kurds continue and use both to hold against Syria.

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I say let them fight it out. We will never solve problems in the middle east - when will we learn. I don’t blame the President. This is a shitty situation to be in - thanks to GWB who ruined the world with these wars.

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How quintessentially GOTP of you. With all the sinkholes left him by the Cheney/Bush administration it took an adult to repair the damage done, Obama’s done a pretty good job considering what the previous mis-administration left him.

Just image what a tremendous President Obama might have been had he not had to spend much of his time cleaning up the mess that eight years of Cheney/Bush left him.

I’m thankful on a daily basis that we did not get fools like McCain/Palin elected at such a critical juncture.

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There was a headline on CNN today that read, “Did US withdrawal from Iraq create instability?” I wanted to scream at the monitor: “NO!! The US INVASION of Iraq created instability!!”

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The war criminals Bush and Cheney were repeatedly warned by military experts, by allies, and by academics, that invading Iraq would destabilize the region and lead to disaster.

Even before Air Force Two touched down in Saudi Arabia today, Vice President Dick Cheney received an unusual public warning from the Saudi leadership that the Bush administration should put aside any plans for a military campaign against Iraq.

‘‘I do not believe it is in the United States’ interests, or the interest of the region, or the world’s interest, to do so,’’ Crown Prince Abdullah told ABC News. '‘And I don’t believe it will achieve the desired result.’'March 2002 - Saudis Warn Against Attack on Iraq by the United States

A senior official at the US State Department has said that political, diplomatic and military officials in Israel warned the United States against invading Iraq even before the American forces entered the country, the Inter Press Service news agency reported over the weekend.

Sept. 2007 - Israel Warned US Against Iraq Invasion

Last week the leaders of Egypt and Saudi Arabia, long-time allies of the United States, publicly warned the Bush administration against invading Iraq to bring about “regime change”. The normally phlegmatic Egyptian president, Hosni Mubarak, cautioned that the deaths of many innocent Iraqis, on top of the continuing killings of Palestinians, could destabilize the whole region. Declaring that it was up to the Iraqi people to decide the fate of Saddam Hussein, the Saudi foreign minister, Saud al-Faisal, forecast that attempts to overthrow him from the outside would fail.

But the hawks in the Bush administration, who are in effective control of US policy in the Middle East, are ignoring such warnings. “It is less important to have unanimity than it is to be making the right decisions and doing the right thing,” said the US Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld. By destabilizing Iraq and the region, and spawning recruits for extremism, Islamist and secular, the hawks’ “right thing” may well prove disastrous not merely for America but also for the rest of the Western world.
Sept. 2002 - Headlong into the Clash of Civilizations
President Bush should heed the advice of friendly Arabs or face the consequence

There’s no pinning the instability BushCo wrought throughout the globe on anyone else.

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I have to say, ‘I prefer the Iraq that scared the jihadist and Iran > to these Iraqis that have to cry for !!!HELP!!!’.