Discussion: Obama: 'I Am Not Betting' On GOP Backing Iran Nuclear Deal

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Bibi desperately needs Iran to be a bad guy. If they aren’t, the world’s attention will revert to Israel’s treatment of the occupied lands, and there is no way that’s going to stand up to any level of scrutiny. Bibi can only lead by having a strong, external enemy to keep his people from complaining about Gaza and the treatment of the human beings that live therein. Fortunately, President Obama seems to understand that Israel does not, and should not, control the actions of the United States and the other member countries that negotiated the Iran deal.

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Good article. Too bad the TPM editors/Mods didnt proofread it first before posting it. At least 3 times two words have no space between them. Shoddy.

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to prevent Iran from sending weapons to militant groups to spread chaos in the Middle East.

It seems to me that it is not Iran who supports militant groups spreading chaos. Al Qaeda and its offshoots, ISIL, the Taliban are not inspired, funded, supported by Iran. Just the opposite, as Iran-backed Hezbollah is the most effective group fighting ISIL, even without US air support. Rather, let US look to ourselves and our best regional “allys” as the culprits.

I applaud President Obama for initiating steps to change the toxic status quo.

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This is such an important point and cannot be stressed enough. Iran being an “evil empire” is Bibi’s raison d’être and without which Bibi would be outed for the nationalistic warmonger he is.

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“Obama said, imploring …” “Obama bemoaned …”

Maybe you should just stick with “said.”

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Well, it is an AP wire story, that kind of nonsense is just par for the course for them.

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Opponents of the deal, including Israel, have lambasted the Obama administration for granting sanctions relief to Iran while it continues to fund terrorist groups in places like Syria, Yemen and Lebanon.

U.N. Sanctions are over suspected nuclear program activities, not any of those other activities. And U.S. Sanctions against Iran over those non-nuclear issues remain in place.

But of course AP couldn’t point those facts out now could they?

Wouldn’t want to inform their readers with things like facts and reality.

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It is a middling (at best) AP article, which falls well short of what it should be.

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In other words, it’s a standard-issue AP article.
It’s as though Ron Fournier still ran the joint.

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More to the point, the deal is about Iran’s nuclear activities. And if the U.S. simply walked away, the sanctions would go with them, and no inspections would be put in place, and no down-grading of Iran’s uranium stockpiles, production facilities, uranium extraction sites, etc.

Israel et al are screaming because they want sanctions in perpetuity. Never mind that U.N. sanctions were predicated on, and only on, the nuclear issues.

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Netanyahu has power. He has no strength. The fact that he feels compelled to mention it, is proof of his weakness.

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Is Bibi implying that he might just go ahead and start bombing Iran to show how great and mighty Israel is, knowing that the US will have to finish the job? I think there are some Republicans who are salivating over the thought of that.
Israel won’t be great and mighty to the world if they start WWIII.

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Their standard response to this opportunity for nuclear security and virtual peace in this flammable region of the world only proves the Republicans now depend almost exclusively on fear and loathing on the part of their most ignorant members, to keep that misguided mob voting for the billionaires who now own them.

Whether it is healthcare, gun-sales or war machinery, Republicans have jumped every shark in the ocean of politics to maintain a media-enabled, fragile parity, one that keeps them just close enough to cheat themselves into their false majority rule.

Israel had become one of their tools for fomenting that patent fear and loathing.

Their support of Israel is no longer even for Israel’s benefit, it is for the purpose of entrapping their fundamentalist Christian base that yearns for a bloody, end-times conflagration in Israel and the entire Holy Land. The weapon manufacturers are glad to see it whenever some televangelist hungry for dollars adds to that meandering myth.

That desperate dependency on a misguided group of religion-centered voters is what this is all about, it isn’t for the sake of Israel. But Bibi and his old-boy’s club are glad to take whatever help they can get, even as they scoff at those fundamentalists and their elaborately enlarged plans for Israel’s next war.