Discussion: Obama Donor's Manslaughter Charge Involves Infant Allegedly Killed By Pain Cream

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So the parents put this in the baby’s bottle? How is that manslaughter by Ahmed? I am completely confused. But since it is the super right wing Orange County that is indicting him I have a feeling this accusation may be baseless.

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Cream taken orally ? Sounds weird . And the three ingredients should not be used on a baby .

Uninformed speculation, here, but this sounds like a classic case of overcharging as a bargaining chip. “Plead to the fraud charges, and we’ll drop the manslaughter count.”

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Why does everyone keep referring to this guy as “Obama’s donor?” I don’t ever hear the Koch Brothers referred to as “Scott Walker’s Godfathers?”

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I come to the internet to get the information I can’t get on TV but I find reporting here to be going downhill as well. Could you please school your “reporters” in how to write a damn newspaper article?

What does the fact that the CEO donated to Obama have to do with anything? What is the relationship of the accused to the baby–if any? Some explanation of what the hell is going on would help as well. Apparently the cream manufactured by that company killed a baby, but it was prescribed by a doctor (which the writer couldn’t even be bothered to say).

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If true, it means that the campaign accepted donations from someone who got the money by defrauding people. Not a good thing, especially when the guy already had a pretty shady reputation. A campaign needs to be at least a bit cautious when accepting large donations, to avoid ending up being associated with a crook.

That’s what it looks like to me as well, given the total unconnectedness of Ahmed to the child’s death (presumably the link the prosecutors make is that the cream was prescribed as part of the scheme, and one of the parents subsequently used it to kill the kid). That may work on some people, but it seems unlikely on someone with millions to blow on lawyers and with such an obviously bad case.

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The writer did mention that the relationship between the death of the infant and the charges against Ahmed et al. are unclear. Quote from the article:

It remains unclear from the available record how the infant’s ingestion of drugs as reported by the coroner led to the manslaughter charge against Ahmed, Rudolph, and Jarminski in the insurance fraud case.

So… there ya go.

It’s a topical pain creme, so I suspect the cream was prescribed to be used on the mother’s nipple if she breast feeds. That could explain the baby ingesting it, and if breast milk was put in the bottle then the cream might have transferred with the milk.

If that’s the case, they may be arguing that the cream didn’t have any warning labels regarding nursing infants ingesting it.

Actually, that’s more like speculation than suspicion.

You know, I don’t want to be one of those people, but I am at a loss as to how the fact that this guy gave a lot of money to Obama’s campaign a) makes this national news or b) is connected to this local story. Unless, of course, the contention is that this guy is being overcharged because he’s a Democratic donor.

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