Discussion: Obama: Cantor's Defeat Doesn't Put The Kibosh On Immigration Reform

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Cantor favored immigration reform like Lucy favors the field goal. So of course his richly deserved loss doesnā€™t kill reform! Cantor favored Republicans feigning just enough calculated openness to the idea of reform, to get some Hispanic votes without actually changing anything.

Cantorā€™s blend of carefully titrated lying is dead, because his constituents didnā€™t catch the wink wink nudge nudge.

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Basically the a confluence of the Tea Party, a variant of Poeā€™s Law, social media and the 24-7 Fox-Rush outrage cycle, are going to limit how Republicans can lie. I wouldā€™ve thought that maybe Romney-Ryan 2012 had made that clear, but evidently not.

Republicans canā€™t just keep reinventing themselves between primary elections and general. General voters hate the feigned primary bat shittery and primary voters hate the feigned general half-sensibility.

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Obama is wrong. In fact, if things stay the same for the lunatic right wing, Jeb, Chris, and others will not run in 2016, because they cannot possible survive GOP primaries.

So, coach, your team is down 3-0 in the series. Is it over?

No, itā€™s not over! Plenty of basketball left to play! Letā€™s go get 'em!

What do you expect him to say?

Such a stupid article.

Immigration Reform isnā€™t going to happen until Teabagger Madness is completely cured.

Cantor had less than nothing to do with it. And everyone should already be aware of this. Particular political ā€œreportersā€.

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Despite what the general consensus is, I donā€™t believe immigration reform had anything to do with Cantorā€™s loss. The lack of voter turnout is the culprit. Iā€™m sure most voters in his district felt that he would win and didnā€™t bother to vote. The turn out was a measly 12%. The statistics Iā€™ve read indicate that 65% of the eligible voters in his district are in favor of immigration reform, but they simply didnā€™t bother to come out and vote. I live in Nassau County, NY and we experienced the same situation when Tom Suozzi was running against the incumbent Republican for County Executive and he also faced a primary. Democrats outnumber Republicans, but the turn out for the primary was a paltry 9%. The general election wasnā€™t a heckuva lot better and he lost. The 12% turnout for Cantorā€™s defeat represented just a tiny slice of eligible voters. Those were the voters who were adamantly against immigration reform and the rest of the electorate just stayed home. No one should put much stock in the political agenda of 12% of the population. For the Republicans and everyone else to declare immigration reform dead based on these numbers, is making a big mistake.

Voter turn out was higher than it was when Cantor won the last time.

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but itā€™s still not indicative of what the majority of registered voters are in favor of. The biggest hurdle for Democrats, and I know it because Iā€™ve been involved in a lot of local campaigns, is voter turn out. The lack of it is killing us. People have got to be made to realize the power of their vote.

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Lately it seems that the Presidentā€™s is the only sane voice in Washington these days. As the political ā€˜processā€™ continues to become unglued, whether its school shootings, the economy, the VA or freeing a POW, President Obama somehow hangs in there with sensible well thought out positions in the face of escalating insanity.

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Didnā€™t say it was, but you cannot claim voter turn out was the cause of his defeat when he won last time with lower voter turn out.

Pres. Obama, I love you but you are being delusional about immigration report at this point as you were when you first won office thinking that you could work with Republicans on a bipartisan basis.

Republicans gave you their fingers time and time again and you kept reaching across the aisle, until you FINALLY figured it out after years of trying that Republicans do not like you and their ONLY goal is to make your presidency worthless.

Immigration reform is DEAD!!!

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Itā€™s nice to have a sane voice in D.C., unfortunately his sane voice doesnā€™t get things done. He cannot do it on his own.

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If Obama is simply trying to keep an optimistic approach because itā€™s the politically expedient thing to do right now, thatā€™s fine.

If, however, he actually really and truly believes that immigration reform isnā€™t dead until after the 2014 elections, heā€™s deluding himself.

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Yes, Iā€™m fervently hoping he said that planning to make one more conspicuous overture to the GOP ā€“ very, very soon ā€“ and then take the inevitable ā€œhell no we canā€™tā€ as the trigger to do whatever he can alone. In time for the midterms, please.