Discussion: Obama: Black Lives Matter And Other Activists Need To Learn To Compromise

Shorter: “Why won’t you lead?!?”

Ron Fournier, is that you?

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Compromise is useful if you have the power to act. But there are many times when all you can do is stand up and shout. Like many of my generation, I was against the Vietnam war. Most of the country refused to have any dialog about the war. It took several years of marches and demonstrations, some of which ended violently (e.g. '68 Democratic Convention in Chicago until people who had some power to affect change began to listen and act.

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I thought I laid all that out:

“you MUST have a willing partner”

I’ll ask again, willing partner or not, how would being unwilling to compromise have resulted in the president getting more of his agenda passed and more judges confirmed?

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There he goes again, this communist, kenyan, islamo-fascist radical just can’t help himself.

Compromise, always compromise! He just has to wave into our faces and rub it in.

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I think a lot of the heat in the primaries is because there are a lot of dems who thought he could have done so much more, regardless of the fact that that he’s gotten more done on major issues since FDR. Clinton is the subconscious- or even conscious for some- proxy for their anger at the president.

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Is there more to the message than the movement’s own name? MLK focused on specific grievances that should not exist in today’s America–and how they could be changed. I haven’t heard the BLM movement’s specific agenda. Anyone know?

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As the first black president he had very little wiggle room. It is admirable how he always kept his cool, despite the constant disrespect from the Republicans and their constituency. He was a major lightning rod and hate figure despite displaying the most pleasant demeanor, and constant bi-partisan outreach. If he would have attempted a more forceful stance it would have radicalized the Right even further, possibly to a breaking point.

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Spot on again Plucky. We are beating a dead horse with folks who just can’t see the forest for the trees

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Espcially the ones who forget the mess he inherited, trying to keep the country from going under, two fucking wars - a republican party determined to make him a one time president and determined to make sure he failed. I am so sick of purists. He is the best president of my lifetime and I ain’t no spring chicken

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Or Darcy!!

And the racist ODS Darcy returns to form.

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Gimme a break, I typed that on a phone!

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Oh… Like that guy that said his WHOLE job was to make Obama a one term President —

Got it …—

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But what’s the alternative in a system of divided government?

And what did the Republican stance of uncompromising opposition get them?

The brand new House Speaker can’t get a budget past his own majority, the Republicans are careening headlong into a brokered convention between two candidates that are unlikable to the general public, leading Republicans are avoiding the national convention, and their Senate majority is in danger.

The GOP is going have to do some soul-searching because they are looking at the likely prospect of a Democratic wave election this year.

The fact is, the Republicans’ uncompromising position now has them on their heels, and the Democrats have momentum.

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Even for you Darcy, this was low.

Disgusting.

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And usually the source of the greatest disappointments.

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@pluckyinky @luckybastard77

The president has unwilling partners in the House and squishy partners in the Senate including those who must watch their backs come reelection season and when it comes to gun control issues. The GOP is the party of No and doing as little governing as possible including holding hearings in a timely manner on Obama’s nominees.That’s why his nominations have been in limbo all of which is exacerbated by covert and overt racism.

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The alternative ultimately leads to some very dark places… because when you realize you will never convince your opponents, and you haven’t done the hard work to convince the public at large that you are reasonable and willing to talk, what is left?

Force, violence. Despite the fact that the progressives claim to want to bring on the “revolution” they have no concept of it. None. It sounds great when a loud, rude elderly man from a small White state has rallies espousing “power to the people.” In practice, as you said so well, it can lead to some very dark and dangerous paces.

What I’ve never quite gotten about BLM is that they end up harassing the very groups that they should be forming alliances with. They seem to think that just getting up in people’s faces will somehow stop Black people from getting killed. It makes no sense whatsoever and I don’t see how they see any kind of future either for themselves or for the country

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There is NO low for that thing. None.

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