I archived an earlier article about voter suppression in WI from The Nation also by Ari Berman who was trying to sound the alarm, but no one listened… I’ve cited it a few times here when someones says Clinton ran a terrible campaign and should’ve spent more time in WI.
Berman made it on to Joy Reid’s program once just before the election to talk about this, he had maybe five minutes before it was time for a commercial. I was furious that no one seemed concerned.
I watch O’Donnell almost every night even if I have to record it, and tonight in the middle of the show some few minutes after this takedown, he interrupted whatever he was talking about to tell us fuckingmoron had put out a tweet about the congresswoman and “fake news” distorting everything and she was being “wacky.” @mattinpa posted it up thread, but it’s too vile to ask anyone to read.
A Clinton presidency following eight years of an Obama presidency with a fairly recent previous Clinton presidency would have been historic, and something I don’t think Rs have done. But it’s been my understanding that the enactment of the 22nd in 1947 was in response to FDR’s four terms.
So many “what might have been” moments lately.
FDR was just 63 when he died. He had had polio which weakened him, had very high blood pressure, and he was a heavy smoker for years. People close to him knew by 1944 he was sick, but people wanted him to run. Probably to avoid another deception the 22nd was passed.
Could this perhaps persuade people to vote in 2018? I’m not going to sleep any time soon after reading this.
How much do we miss him and Michelle? TOO MUCH.
I can’t imagine how painful it is for him to see this vicious buffoon sadistically trashing the country Obama tried to improve.
That’s kind of laughable in a country where the losing candidate gets 3 million more votes than the winning candidate. Even 3 million and 1 votes would not have made no difference. Moreover, in just 2 counties is Michigan, over 85,000 black people again demonstrated their inability to refrain from overvoting and thus have their votes rejected. And what about that promised audit?
Research shows that in some countries, employers, especially private employers, can exert influence on how their employees vote. They can do this with both carrots and sticks. In contrast, the public sector is barred from even implying such favoritism. Of course, as we have seen with US officer corp of the military that this does not matter. It is largely a given that you vote GOP to move ahead in your career. Its all stick and no carrot. For the poor in areas with low economic opportunity such as the San Joaquin Valley, not voting becomes a survival strategy. While the employer sees brown people as likely to vote for Democrats, the effect on employment is neutralized by making it clear that you do not vote. All this talk about some sacred franchise is bullshit if you can’t feed your family next week. The majority of Americans have net savings of less than $1,000, so their economic situation is continuously precarious. 80 million adults never vote.
brissy only shows up on threads where the topic rolls around to the Russian interference investigation.
The Troll Farm at 55 Savushkina Street scans for it. So they don’t waste their time replying to uninteresting threads.
Try it sometime: invoke Mueller, mention Vesenitskaya and Flynn – voilà, brissy pops up right on cue!!
Here, too. I was a fervent participant in high school civics class (back in the day they taught us all the things our current pResident doesn’t know about) and then watched one after another assassination and friends get shipped to Vietnam and die and all that was happening before I was 21.
The year I was old enough to vote in the California primary, I proudly went to the polls and that night saw on TV my candidate murdered during his victory speech. It only made me more entrenched in the idea that I have to vote in every election.
Maybe the chaos happening today will make more young people learn about government and commit themselves to doing their part. We need everyone to take it as seriously as those of us who grew up with “duck and cover” drills in school because of the fear of Russians attacking us — they have already attacked and they had too much help in doing so.
Stupid Woody Guthrie. Obviously not aware that Democracy only now is at stake – and he uses “whilst”.
Justice, oh, justice,
Whereabouts can I hide?
Liberty’s locked up by the fascists tonight!
Freedom got sold
For her carcass and bones!
Justice, oh, justice,
Whereabouts can I hide?
Freedom, oh, freedom,
Whereabouts do you hide?
I looked through my wrecked street, but you I cannot find
Peace got beat up, by the Stormtroops last night.
Freedom, oh, freedom,
Whereabouts do you hide?
Democracy, democracy,
Hey, lift up your head!
This is the same curbstone where my family bled.
The voters are voting
Whilst the blood soaks it red.
Democracy, democracy,
Hey, lift up your head!
Same here, since I was 18. My mom made sure of it; too many people died for the right to vote. Was proud to go to polling station with her. It’s free, easy - and this was before permanent mail in ballots. I do miss the “I voted” sticker though.
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I heard a slogan way back then saying, “Vote, you lucky American!” and always felt it to be true.
[/quote] For me it’s the one where if you don’t vote then don’t complain.
I don’t just boo, I vote too. .
I don’t like the word Trumpism, it suggest some kind of coherent ideology or, at least, thinking, instead of blatant opportunism and grifting.
Me, either. And that’s 40 years of primaries, specials, generals, mid-terms and off-years. Used to be here in Kentucky we had local and legislative elections in odd years so there was a primary every May and a general every November. Elections every six months forever meant somebody was always campaining. And everybody voted.
They they switched local elections to even years, and now dems sit at home.
I love to talk about issue politics–leaving party out of it. I do it in a respectful calm way. They can’t even make that leap. Any mention, even slight, has them rapidly becoming angry. It wasn’t always like that. After they voted for Trump they don’t even want to hear anything about politics.
You’re talking about RFK of course. His brother, had he run for a second term, would have been the first ballot I cast. I’m not sure I saw it live, though I did see JFK’s assassination live.
I don’t know what it will take to get young people to look up from their phones and their social media obsession to let news from all around them sink in and then take appropriate action. We who are in the older age bracket are the ones who come to out to vote in reliable numbers, and it’s maybe because we have some degree of civic engagement, we come here to let us each other know what we know. “Duck and cover” in grade school, I remember that too.
You’re quoting our last sane president.
As soon as it started raining up far north CA, i was hoping it would be moving towards sonoma/napa - now I hope you guys don’t get mud slides. Clare - any need for hot meals or clothes for people you know? can travel down there
Sad to say I do know people who don’t mind saying they don’t vote except in presidential elections. They fail to see all elections are connected, and so IMO when they do cast that vote once every four years, I imagine it’s pretty well uninformed.
Killed Roosevelt.