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And the calls for the de-funding of the EPA will commence in 3ā¦2ā¦1
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ā¦about 40 years ago?
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Arenāt executive orders only as good as long as the President remains in office or is succeeded by another Democratic President that is willing to be environmentally friendly to people and other living things? In other words, if a Rethuglican President gets elected, arenāt all bets off by a potential reversal of President Obamaās executive order? Gawd, I hope we can sustain the Presidency in 2016. Too much is at stake. Waaay too much.
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Calls for it, I wonāt be surprised, but trying to sell unchecked pollution as a noble example of American freedom wonāt be easy.
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That coal ash in your water? Thatās American Jobs.
That benzene in your ground water? Thatās American Jobs.
That smoke in your air? Thatās American Jobs.
There you go.
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Yup. Also, too, science is a godless socialmalistic plot. Especially environmentalist science.
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Itās frightening havinā to rely on Dems troubling themselves to actually show up and vote? That is why (I think) this President uses the āJustice Thurgood Marshall understandingā when heās governing, that: āeven an imperfect law can have utility and impact.ā But for an imperfect law like the Clean Air Act, this CONservative court would have done a much worse hatchet job service for Republican interest.
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This is precisely why Obama has been very slow to act with EOs. If heās replaced by a Republican, the new president could just ignore his previous EOs and return to the old rules. However, a law passed by Congress and signed into law could only be undone by Congress. Thatās why heās held off until recently on new EOs for LGBT rights, because those rights could be easily snatched away by the next president. Thatās also why itās so vitally important that we replace Obama with another Democrat.
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Damn that meddling Environmental Protection Agency and the sĢ¶oĢ¶cĢ¶iĢ¶aĢ¶lĢ¶iĢ¶sĢ¶tĢ¶, um, Republican President who spearheaded its formation in the early 1970s!
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Absolutely, and I think his belief is that you try to get what you can, take what you can get, and then build on it.
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Itās not really an executive order. People like Sahil just say that because they live in the āwired Republicanā world of DC and imbibe and regurgitate DC press corpse memes, like the Obama governing by executive order because stymied by Congress and because heās naturally a tyrant," without even thinking about it.
Instead, Itās a full-on (and quite run-of-the-mill) regulatory action under the rule-making authority conferred upon the EPA by the Clean Air Act and subject to the procedures and provisions of the Administrative Procedures Act. Regulations can be changed by a new administration, but its more time-consuming, politically costly and subject to judicial review.
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Nothing like a Supreme Court decision to transform Obama from a feckless and useless inexperienced community organizer into a raging tyrant who has no appreciation for American values. I suppose itāll take some unpredictable unpreventable calamity to change him back.
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Yeah, my friend was just telling me that the burglars only took most of his stuff.
What a victory!!!
Or how people in Akron Ohio used to say, when you asked them why you couldnāt breathe, because of the rubber-manufacturing pollution, āOh that? Thatās the smell of money!!ā
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Thanks for that explanation. It helps put it in a better perspective for me to understand.
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How many heads 'asploded today? It is to laff.
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And to think of how much money they saved on their lighting bill - why, American Jobs made Lake Erie into one big candle!
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Please give a list of previously unregulated industries that will escape regulation for Greenhouse gases under this decision. Are there any significant emitters who now escape regulation. I have heard cattle farmers (methane) mentioned, and wonder perhaps about the cement industry (but know of no practical methods to switch cement formulations to reduce CO2. Lime just takes too long to set to be practical, although the final product is superior). But I donāt know if either of these industries are either exempted (methane is toxic and explosive) or if a practical alternative to cement is possible.
If you cannot point to a significant polluter who escapes regulation under this ruling, your complaints are nothing more than killjoy trolling.
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They already have.