Discussion: NYTimes Sheds Light On Deal With Conservative Author Dishing Clinton Dirt

I am not trying to argue whether a Secretary of State using a private email system was OK. But for the record, Condoleeza Rice did not conduct government business using private email.

My point is that like a lot of people from her generation, Hillary Clinton doesn’t seem to grasp that email is not very secure. She thought that by setting up a private system she could keep her email secret. Instead, all of her email, both business and personal, are likely in the hands of several governments and that will likely be a huge problem for her in the near future.

I don’t think a lot of thought was given to it at all. The common perception at the time was the Gov’ servers were a morass of cobbled systems, and there was no regulation stopping her from doing this. Colin Powell did the same thing. It seems safer that being tied into the gov system to me.

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Unearthed could also mean public source material. Not that it proves or disproves anything he’s writing. I suspend judgement until I actually read what he’s trying to sell.

So you are in contact with the hackers? Is that what you are trying to tell us with "Then some very damaging emails will be leaked?

Meanwhile: But it took Mr. Bush seven years after leaving office to comply fully with a Florida public records statute requiring him to turn over emails he sent and received as governor, according to records released Friday…

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And 10 paragraphs in, we have this:

Whether the donations played any role in the approval of the uranium deal is unknown

But the Times has done its job to fuel the speculation.

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Don’t get your hopes up. You may end up learning that Clinton was discreet, and that nothing that comes to light will incriminate her in any way. Everyone knows that an e-mail is not secure, not because of the off-chance of being hacked, but because it goes TO someone, and after that you have no control over what happens to it. Clinton is a lawyer, and when she says she never discussed any classified information via e-mail, that sounds credible.

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Yes. There’s still some good stuff in the NYT: Bill Cunningham on fashion, Driven by Tom Voelk, and Gail Collins. After this sophomoric Schweizer stunt, will have to depend on The Independent and The Guardian for serious news.

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What I don’t get it why it would be better if Clinton had used two e-mail accounts, for private and public. What would have prevented her from using the private system for government work and then deleting it? The people trying to take her down would be going equally berserk in any case, because she is good on policy and therefore they can only attack her by casting doubts on her character.
This whole new flap sounds like Whitewater again–a huge uproar with no substance. But go at it, boys!

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“But the episode underscores the special ethical challenges presented by the Clinton Foundation, headed by a former president who relied heavily on foreign cash to accumulate $250 million in assets even as his wife helped steer American foreign policy as secretary of state, presiding over decisions with the potential to benefit the foundation’s donors.”

Hillary goes rogue? Chekov was the navigator of the USS Enterprise but Kirk told him where to go. Or Starfleet did.

Condoleeza Rice was a disaster as SOS rubber stamping what ever GOP fantasy that the Bush boys were engaged in.

And I’d take Hillary with any problem of that nature over any of the GOP candidates who are in themselves huge problems and of doubtful sanity.

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I’m willing to pass judgement on the basis of how he’s willing to sell it.

Mr. Giustra held a fund-raiser for the Clinton Giustra Sustainable Growth Initiative, a project aimed at fostering progressive environmental and labor practices in the natural resources industry, to which he had pledged $100 million. The star-studded gala, at a conference center in Toronto, featured performances by Elton John and Shakira and celebrities like Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Robin Williams encouraging contributions

ANti-CHristiaN HILLAry is in THE POCKEt of ScienTOLOGISTS

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Meh. I’m not a HRC fan at all. However, I think the Clintons now have nuclear-grade teflon armor when it comes to crap like this. The more noise people make about it, the less the average voter will pay attention. You can’t just keep screaming about the world ending because of < insert current rwnj bogeyman > and expect people to keep paying attention.

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Here is what they are likely to find when they get a hold of the former President’s server. Hillary: “gosh! I wasn’t expecting to talk to anyone today… are you sure that I need to call this gent?”

So there it is, the smoking gun. In the very next email after she says “Benghazi”.

I rest my case. Right, Jesus_Quintana?

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Hmm, let’s see what we have here. Would a Secretary of State have the ability to get something like this approved? I’d expect for a real newspaper to actually look into into what she unilaterally had the power to do in these sorts of situations. It turns out that these sorts of approvals have to go through the " Committee on Foreign Investment in U.S" (CFIUS), which is chaired by the Treasury department and includes:

The members of CFIUS include the heads of the following departments and offices:

Department of the Treasury (chair)
Department of Justice
Department of Homeland Security
Department of Commerce
Department of Defense
Department of State
Department of Energy
Office of the U.S. Trade Representative
Office of Science & Technology Policy
The following offices also observe and, as appropriate, participate in CFIUS’s activities:

Office of Management & Budget
Council of Economic Advisors
National Security Council
National Economic Council
Homeland Security Council

Even if Clinton were so inclined, that’d just leave 6 other Federal departments, the OTR, the OSTP, and buy-in of the NSC, and Homeland Security (among others) to get this cleared.

So, since it’s not in her power to get something of this sort approved, I guess that they’re insinuating that she was using the State Department’s veto ability to shake down the developer? That’d be a pretty big story, but I suspect that there’s zero evidence that might have happened given that they never even spell such a scenario out.

I guess that if we needed it explicitly, here’s the confirmation that the Clinton Rules are back in effect with the MSM.

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They still didn’t explain what justification there is for teaming up with a ‘journalist’ who peddles bogus stories, with clear ties to right wing causes. I canceled my digital subscription.

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HITLAry cLINTon = KEYEer SözE.

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You think this because “Lazar” hacked Blumenthal’s AOL account?
Maybe “it’s possible” but thinking it is probable makes no sense.

The NYT’s failure to take full moral ownership of the ethical and professional meltdowns that led to its horrific yet opaque Whitewater obsession and Clinton-hunting, the morally bankrupt coverage of the Gore campaign by Kit Seelye, aided and abetted by the poisonous green pen of Maureen Dowd, and the deaths resulting from its abysmal failure to exert even the mildest level of journalistic control over Judith Miller dooms it to make the same mistakes over and over again.

But, hey, still a good place to go if you want to read the entire text of a treaty or communique, so they got that going for them.

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I’ve subscribed to the NYT for years despite the outrageous cost. This may have just pushed me over the edge. I’ll give this a couple of weeks or so, but it’s not looking good for continuing. On the positive side, I could get 3 or 4 other papers for the same money.