Discussion: NYT: Trump Wants To Keep Stake In Business But Hand Reins To Sons

Actually, more of a “I have my hands over the NYT’s eyes!” blind trust. Also, possibly over TPM’s:

Donald Trump does not plan on completely divesting from his businesses, but plans to have his two oldest sons, Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump, run his companies, the New York Times reported Wednesday, citing unnamed sources familiar with the discussions.

Turning businesses you continue to own over to your sons isn’t an “incomplete” divestiture. It is no divestiture at all. I mean, jesus, if people can put money into your pocket by doing business with companies you own, it doesn’t fucking matter who is running them! To dignify this standard third world kleptocracy arrangement as even a partial divestiture is part of the submission and normalization process. Indeed, they say this without seeming to see a single cloud or shadow in the sky. Not like all those terrible conflicts of interest Hillary had when she continued sometimes talking to people who were rich or donated money to a charity.

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You sure do spend an awful lot of time here telling people how to behave.

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I’m fairly certain that mattinpa is fully cognizant of the gravity of the situation.

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Then read some one else. There’s a lot of superficial comments here, when there’s a world at stake.

And Donnie had the audacity to cry out “Crooked Hillary?”

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There is a real reason not to use his name: Because he is a pathological narcissist, it feeds his disease. He gets off on the number of times his name appears. That’s why I don’t use it.

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Now you’re making a worthwhile contribution. I’ll endorse that 100 percent. Have a nice sojourn here, Mr. August 16.

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The thing is (and I say this more or less kindly, with full acknowledgement that I’m no Dale Carnegie myself and that I’m kind of doing the very thing I’m criticizing), I don’t seem to recall any elections for Boss of Us or an announcement from the principal over the P.A. appointing you hall monitor. So, when you walk around shushing and finger wagging and admonishing us on our perceived transgressions of right and proper behavior in the face of the very serious looming catastrophe, all you do is make yourself look churlish and ridiculous and that kind of tends to undermine your credibility on other things.

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I’m mindful that he insists on being called Mr. Trump. So when Hillary called him “Donald” and the President tended not to use his name at all, there was some psychological insight, fun snark, and a depth of contempt happening there. In some people’s eyes Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama for that reason aren’t serious people and don’t recognize there’s a problem. I disagree. This is why they make chocolate and vanilla. : )

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He’ll be impeached.

Every day he steps closer to it.

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Yes the fun will be when and who gets tired of whom first. The GOP needs Trump to keep the voting block he engaged, engaged and happy, but most of all distracted from what they (the GOP) want to accomplish. Trump will need the GOP for now to get his generals and et al confirmed. How those cabinet heads lead their departments will another question I’ll be waiting on with bated breath.
And as Rachel Maddow pointed out last night Flynn was only a 3 star general and the other two were four star generals, you can take a general out of the military but can you take decades of military chain of command and respect out of the men?

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I don’t want to rely on that, but I think some form of removal is far likelier from the outset than with any other President in history. And as you say, everything we know about him undeniably says he’ll keep smashing the norms and committing every crime he can get away with. Republicans themselves, at least the majority who weren’t so sure he was a good idea, know they have a problem. Here’s a quote from a [recent piece by James Fallows][1], who’s one of the most serious people on the planet and not an emotional basket case like me:

Our current exposure to Donald Trump is a moment that even experienced Republicans will say—carefully off the record—represents a confidence-destroying emergency. (How do I know this? Like most reporters, I have heard first-hand—but of course not from anyone willing to be quoted. This is the party of Lincoln.)

If he says he and others are hearing that you can take it to the bank. People like Fallows spend their entire careers talking to people who are in a position to know what they’re talking about. He’s the best of the best. So this means something.
[1]: Dear Mr. Obama: You Are Still the President - The Atlantic

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Crooked Donny!

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What makes you think Republicans might not do that? They would much prefer a President Pence… And at that point, what is to stop Democrats from not wanting to impeach him, letting him further destroy the Republican brand…just a thought.

If death starts to result from people like this pizza shooter nut, the majority of America is not going to be pleased. Remember it was more of a Hillary loss than a Trump win…

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Two for the price of one!

You believe that comments here have the potential to steer the world in a better direction? Perhaps President-elect Mr. Donald John Trump (did I use his name correctly?) reads the comments here and will take what we say under advisement.

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“that comments here have the potential to steer the world in a better direction?”

Yes, if there is insight.

Pot, meet Kettle.

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Of course Don lied about divesting and blind trusts etc. Don is a con artist and pathological liar. He wants to run his business from the White House and screw taxpayers for as much money as he can get out of us. Big surprise. The guy is a crook. What did you expect.

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you’re right, but I threw up in my mouth a little

And on the larger corruption point, I absurdly have the slightest bit of optimism sometimes that Herr Fuhrer will focus so much on grafting that he forgets to blow up the world and/or destroy all our democratic institutions.