Discussion: NYT: Trump Asked McGahn, Priebus About Interviews With Mueller

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This shit is so stupid. Iā€™m worn out. I have become comfortablely numb.

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Um, can he do that?

Legally I mean. I know, just generally asking ā€œcan he do thatā€ with this alleged human is about as useful of asking it about a hyper 2 year old.

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You nailed it ā€” this all is mind numbingly exhausting.

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Like for Pink Floyd reference.

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Especially when you consider in recent memory that any one of a hundred transgressions by Trump and his administration would have brought the president down .
The Republican Do nothing Congress has redefined the standard to the point where they are OK with treason and malfeasance on a scale that would make Benedict Arnold blush

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In fairness, if I were President, and guilty of conspiracy to cover up terrible crimes that I was, in fact, guilty of, Iā€™d also grill anyone called to testify about me and my despicable behavior.

So I sympathize with DJT being a nosey slimeball. Iā€™d totally do the same if I were a desperate, lying, two-faced, psychopathic traitor.

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ā€˜McGahn did not release a statement contradicting the story and reportedly had to remind Trump that he did, in fact, ask him to dismiss the special counsel.ā€™

Ok, pressure of the probe, and senility kickin in - thatā€™s good.

ā€˜Trumpā€™s questioning of key witnesses about their conversations with investigators could further spur Muellerā€™s obstruction inquiries, according to experts who spoke with the Times.ā€™

Bolstering the O-O-J case against himself - thatā€™s REALLY good!

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I vacillate between numbness and outrageā€¦ but ainā€™t nothing comfortable about itā€¦

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This just came across my twitter feed
This occurred within my lifetime from this toā€¦ well you know
Overpowering sadness
Remembering JFKā€™s farewell speech to Massachusetts

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I bet youā€™d be far more subtle in how you collected your information, austin_dave. And Iā€™m glad it remains solidly in the theoretical, slim-to-none realm of possibility anyway.

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It is an understatement to say that the contrast is marked.

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If true, it raises more red flags. A much clearer case though, IMO, already exists against Priebusā€¦who went to the FBI to get them to both A)drop their investigations and B) issue a statement saying they were never investigating the President or his team.

Likewise, McGahnā€™s attempted inquiries to the FISA court to find out which Trumpers had outstanding wiretap warrants is also a pretty clear case of OOJ and abuse of power.

Both of these episodes were pretty widely reported at the time. And both were part of a wider effort by the Trumpers to find out just who the FBI was investigating. (Watnick-Cohn digging into FISA records was also part of this effort ). As I said at the time, it was a red flag that the Russia stuff was so widespread, that they didnā€™t even know themselves how exposed they were, and who specifically was exposed.

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Iā€™d say uncomfortably numb.

Is this witness tampering? Canā€™t McCahn and pubert be called back at some point?

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IANAL but they were discussing this topic on talking heads last night and they said not likely OOJ or witness tampering but also not cool.

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Why are McGahn snd Priebus ratting on Trump?

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just a wild ass guess, but perhaps they know dotard is guilty AF and they donā€™t want to go to jail for the rest of their lives for being complicit?

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It certainly further documents (I am not a lawyer and do not recall the exact term of the art) Trumpā€™s guilty conscience, or whatever itā€™s called that is apparently a necessary component of OOJ.

ā€œHey, what did you talk about with the police in their investigation into meā€ is a real bad look.

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ā€œconsciousness of wrongdoingā€ sez the google engine

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or ā€œconsciousness of guiltā€ too

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Yeah, thatā€™s what several former prosecutors said on MSNBC last night. I also got the impression itā€™s part of a much bigger picture. Each of these events separately and alone arenā€™t obstruction. However, thereā€™s a pattern of behavior that collectively adds up to a pretty strong case for obstruction. Itā€™s also an even stronger case that the president is a stupid, spoiled brat who lacks even the kind of basic self-control to keep from entangling himself into greater and greater legal peril.

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