There was a time when Russian Intelligence services went to great lengths to protect their sources. Think Burgess, Maclean and Philby. These days, these services seem more than happy to hang their sources out to dry. Perhaps these services see people like Page as little more than “useful fools.”
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The manner in which this article is framed is an affront to good people. In veiled tones, it leaves the impression that something shady might have happened. Ridiculous. We’d better learn to use the terms “Soviet-style purge” and “pro-Russia GOP” and put them in heavy rotation, beginning with Rep. Nadler.
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I would also add that Carter Page is not a small player in this story, meaning that the Trumper attempt to both oust Rosenstein and burn Page as a source is not irrational. It’s just so audaciously stupid as to paralyze the institutions of gov’t to enable political allies of Trump to provide the justification to fire Rosenstein.
The Carter Page House intel transcript is an amazing read. The Russians reorganized his itinerary for his July 2016 trip to have him meet a bunch of connected Russian Intel folks at a bar in Moscow, including representatives from Rosneft, the Russian state oil co. Sanctions and the sale of Rosneft were both discussed. In addition, a few weeks after that trip, Trump’s team changed the GOP plank on Ukraine in its platform. There’s a lot to follow-up on here.
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It would be delightful if the Dutch have him paying a visit to Cozy Bear ops.
“Carter Page. That boy should never be let anywhere near a secret. A dead cat has more self discipline and brights.”
Fixed.
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I think we should take them up on an Investigation of the FBI, but insist that it start with an investigation by a new Special Prosecutor of the FBI’s NYC field office and it’s effort to elect Trump by smearing Hillary Clinton with lies about her emails. The first witness, under oath, should be the former NYC Mayor, Mr. Guiliani. The Special Prosecutor should be Eric Schneiderman, who will take a leave of absence from his current duties to run the investigation.
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If the Republicans won’t release the memo (which they have the power to do), then just release the footnotes. If this thing has no footnotes then it’s an opinion piece, sales pitch for TV show, just plain lying, or my favorite would be they don’t know how any of this works and won’t bother to learn.
And just to get on my high horse here why was Nunes picked to chair the House Intelligence Committee? Does he have a back ground in intelligence? Does he have a law degree? Did he ever hold a position where he was responsible for health, safety and welfare of a group of people?
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So let me try to understand this…Even though Carter Page was outed as a Russian spy that had infiltrated the trump campaign, and Republicans seem to know this now, they’re really upset with how our intelligence community and FBI came to learn this, and what they did to make sure Page was still under surveillance?? The nerve of them…
Well…this is all starting to go beyond my commenter pay-grade. I should really quit now.
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Yep…the specter of the GOP–we’re talking the entire body itself–being prosecuted under the RICO Act, boggles the mind!
This reminds me of the Tom Delay ‘secret’ memo re Bill Clinton in which ALL the stuff that Ken Starr could not ‘prove’ was put together in a truly scurrilous way. Now me, if it’s not verified it should be left aside. But not old Tom Delay. He felt everybody ‘had’ to know the stuff that Ken Starr could not prove. (Whenever anybody says ‘shit’ about BC I always respond that he had an actual proctologist trolling around up his rectum and if Ken Starr could not PROVE Juanita Brodderick’s allegations they are unprovable. He could have had an addendum saying She was influenced in this way or that way but NO, Kenny left it out. Starr was on TV yesterday saying BC was worse than Russia. Oh sweet Jesus.)
Can someone explain to me why it matters if the Steele dossier was used as an impetus for the surveillance? I don’t understand. Are they claiming that because it was funded by Dems (obviously ignoring the full timeline of the document), using it as a raison d’etre for the probe makes the probe political? It seems like a huge stretch that would have no grounds before a judge, even if it were 100% true. Which it isn’t. But…yeah. What difference would it make?
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MY cat anyway.
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I’m not sure “infiltrated” is the right word in that context, it would suggest that wasn’t the entire reason the Trump campaign hired him…
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And they already HAD the Australian Ambassador telling them what Papadopoulos said!
My thoughts exactly: OMG, an assistant DOJ AG approved extended surveillance of a known Russian agent. What a scandal.
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Fake Netherlands.
Almost spit out my coffee reading this…
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The innocence of Carter Page is the basement of the Comet Ping Pong pizza parlor.
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I was listening to a politics discussion on NPR recently, where they were talking about the memo and various other criticisms of Mueller, the investigators, and the FBI in general, and it was infuriating, because they were doing exactly what we should not be doing – having good-faith discussions about bad-faith actors and arguments. It was almost like an SNL skit.
And the NYT is doing it’s damned-est to walk that “both sides do it!” line again. It’s like they feel bad about breaking the Trump-Mueller story, and need to start a bunch of other fires to prove they’re not biased to people that will always, no matter what, accuse them of compromising bias.
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Also, there is nothing to prevent Devin Nunes from talking about his “findings” is there? They’re acting like they don’t actually have this memo, didn’t actually manufacture it. They’re such amateurs at this subverting the government stuff. I hope the DOJ has opened inquiries into Nunes and associates’ behavior.
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