Discussion: NRA Acknowledges Receiving Foreign Funds, Moving Money Between Accounts

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Follow the money. The NRA might think they’re smarter than Mueller’s team. They’re not.

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Doesn’t pass the smell test. Amounts to comingling funds and I don’t frigging care how ‘legal’ it appears, it is something a legislator should get their hooks into. This is a big deal.

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The word to discuss here is ‘fungible’. It’s usually defined as mutually interchangeable but when the fungible object is money, the most fungible thing there is, it means impossible not to interchange. Think of it this way: you have 50 bucks in the bank but 25 of it came from a source that prohibits it being spent in an Italian restaurant. So you spend the other 25 on a plate of spaghetti in an Italian joint. After all you still have 25 bucks in the bank. But if you didn’t have that constrained money you’d be broke after your meal. So, the money that could not be spent on Italian food freed up the other money to be spent that way. That’s fungibilty. The NRA may have put the money in different slots but the foreign bucks, acting as a backup source of cash, allowed more of the domestic stuff to get into political channels. Without the rubles the NRA would have to divert USA cash from politics to internal operations. Instead they paid the phone bill with the rubles.

This is what Obama was railing about when Alito said “not true”. Well Sam it’s true buddy.

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Drip drip…

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But the gun group insists none of that foreign money has ever been put towards election purposes, which would be illegal.

Bullshit. Money is fungible. Foreign money, if spent in one place, leaves residual domestically obtained funds to be spent in another place.

Fuck these assholes. Repeal the 2nd amendment.

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Lock them up,

Lock them up…

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Is anyone really surprised? I think the NRA is busted…

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The sheer volume of money the NRA spent in 2016, a substantial increase over 2012, and the sheer volume of money it received from foreign sources (including Russians and their traceable intermediaries) suggest that such money was leveraged to support campaign/political activities. At minimum, the security blanket of the foreign money would’ve allowed them to overspend from their general account without co-mingling, and then they could transfer money back into their general accounts the following year from the account holding the foreign donations.

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Off course one dollar is identical to any other dollar, how can you tell where each dollar was spent? But even if you keep the monies separate, you use the foreign money to pay the cleaning and landscaping contractors. The you will have some extra money elsewhere that you can use to bribe your congress men, or pay for one of those horrendous Dana Loesch adds.

So yes they have been injecting foreign money into US elections.

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This, exactly! The foreign money helps pay for operational costs, etc, that the NRA would otherwise have to spend its domestic resources on - thereby freeing up those domestic resources for political work…

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“Our review of our records has found no foreign donations in connection with a United States election, either directly or through a conduit.”

Absolutely. When your documentation is used as shotgun targets before being reviewed, it’s hard to determine anything from the paper confetti left over.

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washa washa washa
rinsa rinsa rinsa
All Clean™

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Let all the poisons that are in the mud hatch out.

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“Mr. LaPierre, there’s a ‘Mr. Mueller’ here with some ‘documents’ for you. Shall I show him in?”

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{{{{SWOON}}}}

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Let’s call this what it is: Money laundering!

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Sure fits the usual pattern, doesn’t it? Deny (it never happened!), then admit to some of it while trying to minimize (okay, we took some foreign money, but we didn’t use it on elections!), then admit to all of it, but insist that it’s all okay (okay, we did it, but it’s legal!).

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But he said the group’s internal review turned up no evidence that that foreign money has been spent on election purposes, or that any donations received during the 2016 election cycle originated in Russia.
Um OK nothing to see here, move along.

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