Discussion: 'Now There's No Police': Baltimore Residents Fearful As Murders Spike

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‘If I get out of my car and make a stop for a reasonable suspicion that leads to probable cause but I make a mistake on it, will I be arrested?’

No, only if you murder someone.

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As it turns out, violent police isn’t the only cause of Baltimore problems, looks like residents did get the treatment they deserved for the most part. Now that police is holding back, the true nature of that part of the population is surfacing and it isn’t a pretty sight.

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This is exactly what happened in Cincinnati in after killings by police led to legal action against officers in 2001. The murder rate spiked sharply through the following months as the police retaliated by withdrawing enforcement from the predominantly black and poor Over-the-Rhine neighborhood just north of downtown. There was some federal oversight imposed on the department for several years, but it was much too wimpy considering that we were suffering under a rogue police force. Chief of police Streicher was never prosecuted for criminal negligence, never held accountable for dereliction, eventually retired with honors.

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There never were any police. There were a bunch of thugs dressed up in police getup.

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Did you say something? That sheet is covering your mouth.

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Just get out there and do your damn job.

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“she wishes the police would return and focus on violent crime rather than minor drug offenses.”

Sorry, but no. Gov. Snyder ® signed a bill allowing MI to contract with private prisons in 2013, so they’ve got cells to fill. It “creates jobs” dontcha know…

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In Baltimore . . . ?

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No one ever went broke telling conservatives bullshit they think they already know.

Also, it’s never too late to learn how to properly use the different forms of the verb “to be.”

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/to_be.htm

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Month to month comparison of murder rates are meaningless, unless contrasted with previous years. Of course there will be fewer murders during winter months, especially bad winters, when there are fewer human interactions in general. Would have been nicer to see a chart of April and May murder figures year to year. Springtime brings people out of their houses, and that includes violent criminals as well.

Seems like the department is more intent on provoking a political confrontation with the prosecutors office than they are keeping citizens safe. These problems are just another side to the same coin: police recruitment is hopelessly broken. Too many officers and most especially supervisors from outside the city, looking down on the people they are tasked with protecting. An “Us vs. Them” mentality, which leads to this kind of “that’ll teach 'em” maneuvering.

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“That part of the population?” Do you think you’re fooling us into accepting you as a neutral observer?

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Sort of like saying to Baltimore residents “You either let us brutalize you or we allow your own people to do it. Either way, you lose.”

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If you hold a man in the freezing cold and then you hang him over a volcano, do you expect him to be grateful? That his “true nature” of preferring the cold will suddenly come out?

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Sounds like the cops decided to punish the victims, again.

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“Arrests” does not equal “crime solved”.

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I thought there were rules and regulations regarding police behavior. Aren’t there procedures regarding the detention, arrest and treatment of people? What the BPD is doing is criminal.The term rough ride isn’t new, and ending police violence against citizens was part of Marilyn Mosby’s campaign. The FOP ignored that part when it was donating to her campaign.

If the police are afraid of getting arrested for doing their jobs, then they are not using/don’t have rules and regs. If they don’t know them, or cannot follow them, then Stephanie Rawlings-Blake should fire the chief, and work her way down the ranks until officers demonstrate an ability to work within the rules and regs.

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So basically, they’re engaging in a work slowdown, just like NYPD did after the mean old commie Mayor hurt their fee-fees by shutting down Stop and Frisk (even though they hated it, if for very different reasons), suggesting that race just might factor into some of their decisions, and failing to condemn the Black Lives Matter protests. Only NYC being as rich and safe as it is nowadays, nothing happened there as a result, while Baltimore, being as poor and crime-ridden as it is, gets a terrifying spike in murders. In both cases, good work there, boys. Way to endear yourselves to the communities you serve.

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Thank you for acknowledging the true nature of some Baltimore Police.

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So the cops are refusing to do their jobs like petulant little children who resent being scolded for wrong-doing, and they think this will help bolster their image? Fuck 'em. Fire 'em all and build new departments from the ground up, seeded by the best and brightest from around the country.

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