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Nothing says, “I am a real American,” than the desire to secede or point weapons at our government.
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Why not? I’m sure the California legislature would be eager to let them go, and the U.S. Congress would be equally eager to give them two Senators, and some Electors for 2016.
Gee, ya’ think maybe this is why this hasn’t happened since 1863?
Maybe they should set their sights a bit lower, and have a referendum on whether to ask for a pony.
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They’re not trying to secede from the Union. They want their own state, separate from California. No weapons involved.
Brown referred to them as the “people of Jefferson?!”
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All they are saying is give cows the vote.
You see in most of the country rural votes count for more than urban votes. Apparently not so in the far north of California. If the California legislature just gave cows the vote like the rest of the country, then they could impose their tea bag bull on the urban dwellers in LA and San Francisco.
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Maybe they will all migrate to Texas where they belong.
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Let them secede. But NO peace treaty, no foreign aid, no military bases, no Coast Guard, no FAA, no nothin’.
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Actually Prime Jloomis, you are wrong. There is something they would get. Much higher taxes because now they need state reps and administration. Divided over a vastly smaller number of people their taxes would more than quadruple.
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And yet another poster who didn’t read the article.
They’re not trying to secede from the United States.
Edit: I won’t be able to post again in this thread, since the commenting system thinks I’m a dangerous subversive (new user gets only three posts in a thread).
Every county in the country should get two Senator’s and a Representative in congress.
That sounds reasonable. Unbelievable.
Did those idiots even consider the financial implication of seceding? What do you bet they are taker counties.
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Typical separatist, us and them logic. They’ll be aghast when they run the numbers.
E pluribus unum.
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Bullshit. One of the major reasons for the push are the gun-control measures the state has put in place. Forget that “one man, one vote” crap – it’s all about the penis-extenders, baby!
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And a pink pony at that…
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Or maybe Hannity will move there and become their first governor. 
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Dangerous subversive… Well is you or ain’t you?!
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Republic of Jefferson/State of Jefferson…whatevs…
Wait until they find out Jefferson was a francophile, a miscengenator, and found Xtians to be silly people not to be listened to.
Oh my…
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You’re not wrong. That’s certainly the case in Colorado where they’re mad as hell (i.e., throwing a tantrum, as children do) about some pretty weak gun legislation.
But the northern California “Jefferson” thing has been talked about for decades in that area. Maybe there is a recent catalyst that led to this vote, but in general I don’t think it’s related to a single issue the way the Colorado one is.
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Measure was also on the ballot here in Siskiyou County where it went down by 11 points https://docs.google.com/a/siskiyoudaily.com/document/d/1ygyHOVDwemosruc8byNg4WTdox8g7UMRJuS-mezB7E4/edit?pli=1
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This article demonstrates flaws in both the reporting of voting results and in the process by which part of a state can secede to form a new state.
First, while the term “voters” is literally correct, it contains an underlying assumption about who is in the majority and who is not across the entire population. It has nothing to do with turnout. The 51% of “voters” in Tahama County could represent 51% of those eligible to vote, or a fraction of those eligible, Without knowing what percentage of those eligible to vote cared enough actually do so, we have no idea whether or not secession is an idea that a majority in Tahama County really favors.
Second is the flaw in the process. Secession, like many other questions, should never be decided by a determined minority who simply vote in greater numbers against those who either have no opinion or are opposed to the question but too lazy to vote on it.
A more legitimate process would require an affirmative vote by a supermajority (55%+) of all those who were eligible to vote in the previous election in the same jurisdiction. Hard questions should not be decided only by the highly-motivated few.
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