Discussion: NH's Senate Race Is All About Souring On Obama

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Poor “individualist” New Hampshire, still lapping up Massachusetts’ sloppy seconds.

If you’re dumb enough to take him, the quarter-termer is all yours. And for SIX years.

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Why is TPM running this ludicrously propagandistic AP story? It refers to the “close polls.” The polling average shows a clear and consistent lead for Shaheen. If the race is “all about souring on Obama,” why isn’t Brown leading easily?

The answer is: the article frames the race the way Brown WANTS to frame it – so that he himself is irrelevant, and it’s all about the supposed “national climate.” Again, if this is actually the whole story of the race, why is Brown behind? And why does the AP Brown-hyping have to resort to vague references to “close polls,” rather than citing actual polls (maybe because the great majority don’t back up their narrative)?

The “expert” cited, meanwhile, to say that Obama-hatred is dooming Shaheen? GOP congressman Guinta! Now there’s unbiased reporting!

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One employee of the metal company, Becky Landry, 49, generally votes Republican. “He’s got my vote. I just believe in what he says,” she said, voicing a concern felt by many in an age of dissatisfaction with political figures.

Shaheen won’t get Landry’s vote.

Goddam, Sherlock, ya think?

Jesus wept, this is why I hate AP with a passion. This, this bullshit right here, is the whole reason in a nutshell why I hate AP. There’s the narrative and there’s the pounding all the round pegs into the square hole of the narrative because, really, the story was written before you went out and tried to report it and all you need to do is put some color into it.

Becky Landry, who “usually” votes Republican is voting for the Republican because people who “usually” vote Republican are Republicans. Her vote for Brown has nothing to do with your “country souring on Obama after six years” narrative bullshit. This woman almost certainly voted against him and Sheehan in 2008, voted Republican in 2010, voted for Romney in 2012 and now she’s voting for Brown, not because she’s “soured on Obama,” but because she’s a fucking Republican and that’s what Republicans do.

If you want to convince me the election is about “souring on Obama,” either quote me some actual goddamned polling data, or, if you must do the “person in the street” anecdotal bullshit thing, find a goddamned voter who voted for Obama and/or Sheehan in 2010 who’s leaning toward Brown in this one. But going to a Republican voter for confirmation that “voters” are souring on Obama is just fucking retarded.

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The AP, as an institution, suckles at the Republican teat on a daily basis.

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Brown is trying the same tactic that both McConnell and Brownback are trying: make his Senate race a referendum on Obama, not the issues, because they have no issues to run on. Another problem is, they are not running against Obama, but their opponent.

It's not working.  Grimes is leading by 2 points, Brownback is down about 5 points, and Brown is down about 10 points. I wish Grimes was leading by double digits. She should be, but the referendum is about the GOP, not Obama.

Or at least that’s what citizens tell me at events I have attention to register new voters .

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It’s all about getting out the vote!

We have to work doubly hard this year, because the GOP base will turn out anyway, so we have to make sure we do better at GOTV than they do.

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“It’s really up to the generals on the ground,” in Syria, where there are none. Great quote there, Browny. I’ll vote for you 'cause I got a truck too. Merica!

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the only problem with some dems running for senate is that they are runnin like a rabbit away from hunting dogs from anything that has to do with the president , grimes running away from common sence background checks away from EPA standards that will help people especially children live and breath better and supports coal industry instead of explaining to the people the positive benefits of these policy decisions she panders to those republicon scare tatics

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The sleazy underwear model is going to win. Because of the half-truths and lies about POTUS, spread by Fox.

Jeezus in a Juicemaster, this is one sick society.

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I have strong doubts that Brown will win. Stories like these are planted in the press (sorry TPM is falling for them) to make it seem like Brown has momentum and that there are legions of people out there who hate Obama.

Most of those haters are in the deep South. But O’s approval ratings are up a lot recently. This is just trying to stem the tide.

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Here they go again — TPM has become Huff Post lite — this was nothing more than an ad for Scott Brown. Of course they blame Obama for Shaheen’s “vulnerability” but gloss over the huge infusion of $$$ form right-wing underwriters. This blog has really gone to the dogs — or more appropriately the elephants!

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Brown cynically believes all New Englanders would welcome him as one of their own. In reality, New Englanders recognize that he isn’t running to represent their interests but the interests of his corporate masters.

Brown is going to lose just like possible 3 time loser Romnerd. They skew because their base can’t handle the truth and will bail if they get the true, depressing, real poll numbers, which kills the horserace in turn.
A Dem landslide sounds like great news to me and to the great majority of America, why the media feels they have to baby the Republicans I mostly don’t understand.

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Ah, “anecdotal bullshit.” Even the NYTimes is guilty of that. And most TV ads, which I never watch but have stumbled upon online, are the same: “anecdotal bullshit.” Brown is about Brown; New Hampshire doesn’t need this newbie, nor his pilot fish, Garcia. Get a platform and maybe I’ll consider what you say, but for now it’s all anecdotal bullshit.

And he’s not a scientist… and he’ll leave that to the pundits…

Dianna Guida Hosmer, said she is a Republican but that Brown is “not my kind of Republican. He voted for every crazy and extreme Republican amendment put before him.”

guess what ms. hosmer, you’re a democrat. democrats are more fiscally responsible than republicans, and always have been. Obamacare (ACA) is projected to reduce the budget (and national debt) by over $100 billion dollars over its first decade. good thing too, because if you count on the republican health care insurance “plan”, you, and the country, could well find yourself in bankruptcy. every republican president and congress, since Nixon, have left gaping holes in the national budget, and huge increases in the national debt. it’s what they do!

Sen. Shaheen does vote 99% with pres. Obama, that’s true. due to republican obstructionism in the house & senate, she doesn’t have to spend much of her time voting anyway, so that 99% translates into a fairly small # of bills. scott brown on the other hand, is a vacuous blowhard. the reason he’s running for office in New Hampshire, instead of his home state of MA, is because the voters of MA woke up one morning, collectively realized they’d made a ginormous mistake while drunk or something, and drop-kicked his sorry ass out of there, and elected the much smarter sen. warren in his place. they’ve been kicking themselves in the butt since then, wondering what the hell they were thinking, when they originally voted in mr. brown.