Discussion for article #227157
I smell oil.
Those Iraqi troops are soft, jeeze, at least go down with a fight. These guys are as helpless as average civilians even with the firepower.
“On Tuesday, dozens of angry family members stormed into the parliament in Baghdad’s fortified Green Zone after scuffling with security guards, causing commotion and arguing with lawmakers. They also forced the speaker to call a session for Wednesday on the missing soldiers.”
This is horrible to say, and certainly reductionist in nature, but the families seemed to have showed more gumption with the Iraqi Parliament than the soldiers did against the enemy.
Why morale and discipline was so low among them is something that needs to be answered before we commit more resources to the Iraqi civil authorities. Was Maliki that bad, or is there more going on?
Usually when one side becomes known for killing its captured soldiers, the other side fights much harder. I am trying to figure out why ISIS wants to be known for its atrocities. Are they trying to scare people into an early surrender, if so how does massacre help?
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Remember Saddam? The Iraqis do. So they will fear and follow the murderers so that they don’t get murdered.
I feel for the citizens of that country. We marched in and overthrew their totalitarian government, replaced it with a weak, corrupt interim one then held elections with so many running that the lowest common denominator was guaranteed to win. And our guy lost…
We ruined their destroyed world and have walked away from it because it is in shambles. It’s a good thing that Halliburton made their money while the making was good…
You mean, because ISIS is taking over oil-production sites and selling the output to fund their activities?
So now the soldiers fighting against ISIS are going to fight to the last bullet instead of surrendering.
Altruism isn’t the only reason to treat the enemy decently when he gives himself up.
The headline is incorrect. S/b:
Why would morale be high? The Iraqi army hasn’t ever done anything. They had no victories and no losses. They are propped up by us. The soldiers had no reason to have any faith in the Iraqi Army and it showed.
If they aren’t too scared to fight in the first place.
But, yes, all the soldiers who actually fight ISIL are going to be fight to the last bullet. There is no such thing as surrender when you fight ISIL, at least not for the Iraqi Army.
Perhaps there is no other “side” besides that which we are propping up. Maybe that’s the point.
Also, perhaps the soldiers were offered safe passage and then ambushed.
These soldiers were most likely under the illusion that a Muslim army would abide by merciful Koranic law when it came to prisoners of war. Not unlike the people on the first two planes that the 9/11 hijackers took who thought that hijackings always ended in hostage releases. Well, fool me once shame on you. ISIS will get no more surrenders and anyone stupid enough to hijack a plane will be torn to pieces by the passengers.
This can all be traced back to Bush Administration incompetence and more specifically Paul Bremmer’s incompetence. If he had kept the Iraqi army paid and together as a unit half this trouble would not have come to pass. I hope and pray Bremmer burns in hell.