Discussion: New York Times Endorses Hillary Clinton For President

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Too late!

That subscription has been cancelled for a long time now.

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She also has LA Times and SF Chronicle, which was published several months ago which honestly was not impressive either.

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I like that the editorial was written in positive language, i.e., why we should vote FOR her.

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It’s a great endorsement and it makes me really happy.

It’s so discouraging to be constantly told what a lousy candidate the first woman nominated by a major party is; it’s so discouraging to be told over and over that nobody likes her. I know it’s not personal but as a woman it gets harder and harder to keep smiling when being whacked in the face with this constant refrain of everything in the world being wrong with our candidate and how she’s running.

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Will the WSJ actually endorse Trump? I find that hard to imagine actually.

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Editorial and news are separate silos.

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@tena
Just my uninformed opinion, but any editorial which does not take into account the missteps any given candidate has made is not doing its job. It’s only far right and yes, far left, which don’t touch on the mistakes and sometimes frailties a candidate has. Just so long as the endorsement is done with a positive outlook overall there shouldn’t be a problem,

@kendyzdad No one seems to know that. They envision Maureen Dowd standing over everyone with a whip screaming “You will obey!”

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Not to judge by their editorial page lately - they’ve called him a liar straight up according to my husband who reads the WSJ.

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I think it is personal, myself, since men just can’t control themselves in needing to keep a woman down. Even many self-described liberal or “progressive” men who pretend they have no problem with a woman doing X have their biases that often crop up: it’s not an exclusively right-winger, dominionist personality trait. This is how Trumpo, despite a record of bankruptcies, millions in debt to Deustche Bank and myriad other stuff, can be treated just as a “businessman” while Hillary appears to violate the known moral universe for being a woman who wants to be in the Oval Office.

Meanwhile, white supremacist garbage has gone mainstream and that is still not treated seriously at all.

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I agree with your entire comment. I meant it wasn’t personal to me but it has that affect on me as a woman. I think we mean the same thing.

:smile:

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Huh? What happened to all the clouds and shadows?

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Oh, don’t worry, they’ll be back. Here’s some of their headlines from Nov 9:

“Hillary Clinton elected; most disliked person ever to become president.”

“Shadows continue to cloud Hillary Clinton as first woman is elected president.”

Remember: the Media Whores are like the leopard, and cannot change their spots.

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Not this time around - the criticism has been just as heavy from the left as from the right and I’m not talking about pointing out missteps. I’m talking about this constant refrain of what she’s doing wrong all the time that keeps her from having a bigger margin against HO, and the constant refrain that she isn’t liked. That is a self-fulfilling prophecy - it feeds on itself and it’s really to me about the fact that she is the first woman in this position and she doesn’t run like a man.

She runs our own style of campaign and apparently it just rubs a lot of men the wrong way for some reason.

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“The New York Times (ahem, cough, choke, gurgle, cough, spit) endorses …that Clinton woman.”

They actually say a few nice things for a change. Time to exhume Vince Foster, et. al.

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Check this one out

When the editor said they would start calling out Trump’s lies, apparently he was extremely serious :smiley:

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That’s beautiful!!

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Well clutch my pearls, I’m getting the vapors!!

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Wow, that was brutal! I can’t believe I read that in The American Journal of Clouds & Shadows.

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Praise for women in public life is rare, seems to be a knee jerk reaction to her simply being a woman and an extension of the kind of discrimination we’ve all talked about here. “Smile, honey.” Everything I’ve ever read is that her circle of women friends adore her, think she’s funny as hell, has a big robust laugh, and she’s had to keep it in check because it’s not a man’s style.

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The New York Post
The Wall Street Journal

National Geographic will break its tradition of never endorsing a candidate because Murdoch publications always become his political rags no matter how sacred their prior prestige and tradition.

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