Discussion for article #239829
OK, TPM, so why are you linking to them? And wasnât the video itself linked on your site yesterday? I donât think youâre in a position to criticize here.
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Everyone needs to re-watch the movie âNetworkâ. It predicted present so accurately it is scary.
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We spent yesterday listening and reading takes on this pretty ordinary workplace murder because there is film and everybody was saying they wouldnât show the video, wink, wink, when it was available everywhere. The media was just as bad as the New York tabloids yesterday. Right now TPM is just pushing clicks.
Props to the USA Network for pulling last nightâs season finale of âMr. Robotâ which apparently had events in the plotline that mirrored the shootings earlier in the day.
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I believe it was linked by a commentator; I donât remember TPM putting up an article with the actual footage yesterday.
Would you and others complaining about this article, prefer TPM not make any comments on the covers which are receiving resounding negative reactions from across the country? Just pretend they arenât there?
A Murdoch owned entity sinking to a new low, I didnât even think that was still possible.
Link = I have to make a conscious decision to take action to see it.
Newspaper cover = I have to walk by a newspaper stand or see someone with the paper.
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The truth hurts sometimes, Caitlin. Why are you acting surprised about newsworthy events and the photographic evidence that chronicles them? Faking? You must be faking, 'cause no âjournalistâ feels uncomfortable around real pictures of real people doing real things.
Letâs pretend that the people complaining about the âcoversâ are the same people that donât want to know that people die in war, cops shoot unarmed people every day and that puppies and kittens arenât always adopted.
No one should be in journalism, read journalism or smell journalism if they canât handle the uncomfortable truths about the world.
We have more than enough uneducated hacks in the world.
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TPM isnât benefitting from the clickthroughs. It makes sense to link as part of media analysis. I donât think youâre entirely wrong but think itâs defensible.
I donât think that distinction really covers it. If it was only on their website and you had to click to see it, it would still be drawing visitors with the lurid content. I think the fact that the Post and Daily News are making money off the images (via sales and visitors) while TPM is not is the bigger difference.
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I was speaking of the footage that the shooter posted, which is what was used for the newspaper covers.
Well, at least you identify your argument as a strawman from the beginning. I like pretend games, they are fun and you can pretend anything.
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I donât think there are any parallels between a reporter and a photographer being shot dead and war.
I find publishing pictures or films of someone getting killed as profanity.
Yes, prurient sick people may enjoy watching it. Solution to thatâŚincrease space in mental hospitals and send them thereâŚbefore they act on their sick fantasies.
Sure it may sell. So what? More like selling out. Publishers of this type of stuff have blood on their hands
There is such a thing as respect for the dead. Respect for the families and friends and community of the dead. And privacy.
If you lived in Roanoke VAâŚor if you were a friend or family of the deadâŚor if you had an ounce of empathy for humankindâŚyou would not want pictures of this sordid deed circulating out there for dipshits to salivate over.
We need to respect life. Not prurient peep hole lunacy.
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['C]ause no âjournalistâ feels uncomfortable around real pictures of real people doing real things.
âA study of 200 American and international journalists covering the Iraq war, done by American University School of Communication in 2004, found that 17 percent of them worked for organizations that would not publish pictures of the dead, and 42 percent had rules discouraging the practice. Absent government censorship, there are a variety of taste issues and commercial considerations â a dead body is never a good adjacency for ads â and a squeamish public aesthetic that can lead to germane but grisly photographs being left on the darkroom floor.â
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I have no trouble with those images at all. Actually we should be shown images of the aftermath, bodies, blood and everything.
We need everyone to see the consequences of gun violence with all itâs gory. Put those images on the windows of places where guns are sold too.
Agreed, but as it turns out, I did not watch the video or even click on the links to the newspaper covers - intentionally. Yet, when I walked out for lunch today and went across the street to the deli, there was a stack of NY Posts right by the door. And yes, it was disturbing.
What I found particularly disturbing was that they made sure to capture the muzzle flash in the middle image, just to give the sequence some zing. Like, someone really wanted to bring the shooting to life. Ick.