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You know, when youâre dropping of a race because youâre an abusive fuck, spare us the bit about your âprayerfulâ decision making.
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He didnât want his sister see him throttle Granny âŚ?
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Looking to compare the public shaming of this well heeded politician to the football player? I know it is intensity and the degree of violence but you know the end results, intimidation by force or mental control. Republicans do it every day but the athletes and entertainers make better copy.
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Be careful about generalizing this to ârepublicans.â It only looks that way because they occupy most of the seats, largely due to the mass spinelessness and bone-headed incompetence of âdemocrats.â Neither party has a monopoly on dickishness and stupidity.
(Kerry undone by the same tactics as Dukakis? Thatâs what I mean by bone-headed.)
Nebraska Republicans, what can you say? I live here and can say plenty but why talk about shitheels?
How about Alabamaâs federal judge (from Mr. Pierce at Esquire):
But there was another case of domestic violence in the news yesterday, one that got obliterated by the Ray Rice episode. Mark Fuller is a judge in the federal district court in Alabama, and not an obscure one. It was Fuller who presided over the trial and conviction of former Alabama governor Don Siegelman, which stank more than a little, and which made Fuller famous among federal district judges in the South. In August, Fuller was arrested for knocking his wife around an Atlanta hotel.
About a minute into the call, as the initial dispatcher patches an ambulance dispatcher into the call, the woman identified as Kelli Fuller, 41, can be heard saying 'I hate you, I hate you." A male voice responds: âI hate you tooâ followed by dull noises in the background. The womanâs voice can be heard loudly repeating: âHelp me, please. Please help me. Heâs beating on me.â The initial dispatcher tells the ambulance dispatcher: âShe says that sheâs in a domestic fight and I can hear him hitting her now.â
Fuller was busted that night, on a misdemeanor. And yesterday, he took a plea deal. Fuller will have to go to counseling once a week for 24 weeks and, if he manages to complete that terrifying emotional obstacle course, his arrest will be expunged completely. It will be like the whole thing never happened. In the meantime, of course, Fuller will go back to his day job, with full pay and benefits, because the only way Fuller can be fired is if Congress impeaches him.
There are two obvious reasons why the adjudications of these two cases seem so disproportionate.
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In the Rice case, there was video.
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Ray Rice is black and Mark Fuller is incredibly not.
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Silly Republican. You donât assault your sister in Nebraska!
In KENTUCKY, you assault your sister.
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We knew that Republicans wanted to destroy SS and Medicare. Why wouldnât they be into elder abuse as well, especially if the old lady has assets that Wall Street missed cheating her out of in the 2008 banking fraud Economic Meltdown. The sister isnât allowed in the motherâs bedroom?
Whatâs wrong with these control freak, greedy Republicans. Afraid that the sister would find out about his lawyer sneaking in to change the will when she wasnât there?
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A hypocritical, abusive, no doubt Bible-thumping conservative Republican you say? Well thereâs a shocker.
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Hope this gets some attention on the races in NE, they have a strong D running for governor this year, and a ballot measure to raise the minimum wage. Would be great if they could get more support.
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Heâs been cut by the Ravens.
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âPrayfulâ with an âeâ?
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âletâs prey (yeah, I know. Not pray)ââŚon my sister!!
WTF?!?!?
I thought that inbred crap was a âsouthern gop/bagâ thing!!
Since he canât be taken off the ballot unless heâs dead, maybe his sister -
No, wait, I shouldnât wish that on anybody.
I meant âprayerfulâ of course. But âpreyfulâ is pretty good 
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Read the article, not just the headline.
The âassaultâ on his sister was not incestuous; he did not âbeatâ her; he did not habitually âpreyâ upon her; there is no evidence that he was âabusing his elderly motherâ, nor that he was âsneaking his lawyerâ into his motherâs bedroom to âchange the willâ.
Heidemann grabbed his sisterâs wrists during an argument in their motherâs bedroom (presumably in front of their mother), and pushed her out of the room. Why push her by the wrists instead of the shoulders or grabbing the sisterâs upper arms to push her? Presumably, because the sister was waving her arms around in front of her and at her brother during the heated exchange, and they were the nearest parts to grab hold of. Is this an act of domestic violence or de-escalation of an ugly argument in front of a parent?
Were there more to Heidemannâs actions, Iâm certain the sisterâs sworn statement would have alleged so.
I am completely unfamiliar with Heidemann: his background, political positions/actions, family relationships, care of his mother and terms of her will. I would bet that everyone else posting here is in the same boat. Why then do we react like those âothersâ we mock as benighted, ignorant, low-information rubes?
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Youâve raised some important points to ponder. I think itâs only human in instances such as this one to have a knee-jerk reaction. Decades of Bible-quoting hypocrites on the right are also responsible for liberal/progressives to assume the worst when said right-winger is caught saying or doing something that should be the antithesis of a Christian. But yes, we should hold our fire until more information is available. I do think that the judge who issued the order of protection against such a powerful man must have had compelling evidence to do so.
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What do the girls of Kentucky have in common with the Uno Bomber???
They both were fingered by their brother
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I donât recall Kerry and Dukakis being women beaters.
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