Discussion for article #224717
more guns = more of this (regardless of whether the gun was owned legally or not)
So is this shooting accidental, negligent, careless, patriotic, or an act of God (since the bullet fell from the sky)?
The gun was undoubtedly fired by an untrained, law-abiding citizen celebrating his Constitutional right to do so.
Meanwhile, in Chicago . . . .
Another example of American exceptionalism.
In any other country a citizen would not be able to negligently fire a gun into the air.
God bless 'merica.
A small price to pay for FreeDumb!!
Criminally negligent, as most accidental shootings tend to be. And no, there was nothing law-abiding about indiscriminate use of deadly force.
And how does one person responsibly using a firearm in any way contradict the sentiment that this incident is a negligent use of a firearm that results from a culture that is itself massively negligent in its approach to firearms?
As you point out, neither of Fool’s posts have any relevance to the article. He’s implying that since gun violence exists we need more guns, I suppose, and that since a good person occasionally uses a gun defensively, the thousands of homicides, suicides, and accidental deaths and injuries caused by guns are a worthwhile price. He doesn’t have the nerve to say so explicitly, because he knows it’s not true and pathetically easy to disprove. He just likes guns and has to say something in a case of incredible negligence like this.
Chicago and Detroit are code words among the GOTP for black. He’s trying to show that the problem with gun violence isn’t guns, but black people. What he doesn’t realize is that he’s not doing himself any favors, as the rest of us see his links and think about how out of control gun violence has become.
For a (not) fun exercise, search for news articles from the past week that contain the name of a location and the word “shooting”.
Here’s one in Oklahoma. And one in New Hampshire. And North Dakota.
It’s not just Chicago and Detroit. It’s America. It’s pandemic.
“…Investigators believe someone shot a gun into the air…”
I think there was quite a bit of that. Better wear a flak suit next year.
Chicago and Detroit killings, your meaning is clear without you writing a word.
In San Francisco a few days an outreach counselor leading a group of about 60 children in a game of dodgeball in a park was killed by someone who walked up to him and shot him “multiple times.” The kids are traumatized and will be scarred for life even with intensive therapy and counseling.
Another responsible gun owner.
Toyz for boyz.
Maybe you could comment on the article you’re responding to. Let me guess – you didn’t bother to read it, did you? You’d rather pretend that guns are more often used only by bad guys or heroically by good guys (like in the movies) than they are in suicides and in horrific and stupid accidents.
Gravity isn’t included in the bibble as one of god’s laws. It is an invention of demon-spawn scientists, who bear full responsibility for the injury. I’m surprised that North Carolina hasn’t made it illegal.
How many hammers and swimming pools randomly fell out of the sky “and” paralyzed citizens that weren’t anywhere near them?
Less people get hurt in intentional knife throwing shows at the circus than in NRA America.
And, like the acceptable parts per million of rat hairs in food, there is an acceptable amount of death and accidental maiming that are associated with guns. Think about that for a while!
The difference is, that people don’t intentionally eat rat hairs but they do buy guns and ammo and load weapons then pull the triggers and know the risks to themselves and others but do it anyways. Another big difference is, that we aren’t doing anything to minimalize the risk of guns like rat hairs or lead in paint, we are actually exacerbating the problem and that’s incredibly stupid.
It’s almost like we are being held hostage by irresponsible people with guns.
Not just irresponsible people with guns, but responsible people with guns who have an accident. Responsible people aren’t somehow magically incapable of having accidents and momentary lapses. Responsible, trained people at gun shows and Wal-Mart, for recent examples.
Tuesday, July 1, 2014
Woman unintentionally shot at Pennsylvania gun show
Krysta Gearhart, of Orangeville, Pennsylvania was unintentionally shot at the Eagle Arms Guns Show at the Bloomsburg Fairgrounds on Saturday.
According to police, a firearm vendor at the gun show, Geoffrey Hawk, was demonstrating how to use a concealed carry holster. Instead of using a plastic model gun, Hawk was using a semi-automatic .380 handgun. Hawk had removed the magazine but didn’t realize there was a bullet still left in the chamber.
Add this to the long list of experienced firearms users who have shot themselves or others, because they didn’t realize that there was a bullet in the chamber.
It is pretty clear that many firearms suffer from a dangerous design defect that is resulting in numerous injuries and deaths. Other products with similarly dangerous flaws result in expensive lawsuits against the manufacturer or government-mandated withdrawal from the market until the flaw is corrected. Guns, of course are a notable exception to the regulatory and liability laws covering most other products.
Imagine if the General Motors models with the deadly ignition-switch design flaw continued to be produced and sold with no design changes even after the company, government, and consumers were made aware that the ignition switch was killing and maiming people in cars using the switch.
In the firearms industry, it is as if every GM model and almost every model by every other automobile maker used the same faulty switch design without any liability for the resulting damage and without any interest in changing the design.