âHouse Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi â who is likely to become House Speaker in January â has suggested that the House might not seat Harris if questions about his election remain.â
Sheâs not even Speaker yet, and sheâs already owning the GOP.
When a hyperpartisan bad faith colon sphincter like Woodhouse flips on this, you know itâs bad.
Whatâs hilarious about this is that this was all about local county level political grifters entirely focused on their own tiny kingdom who were trying to flip a local race for sheriff but ended up potentially costing a Republican a House seat and drawing legit law enforcement scrutiny to themselves and a local tradition of corrupt electoral practices that went back years.
I think the NC GOP has done a root cause analysis on how they 2rre caught and feels confident that they can pull off the heist undetected this timeâŚ
Sooooo⌠heâs basically saying, âSure, the GOPer cheated during the primary and cheated again during the November election, but unless you can prove we cheated enough, the GOPer should still be declared the âwinnerâ.â
The Republican position is that there must be a showing of âsubstantial likelihoodâ that the alleged fraud scheme changed the outcome of the race.â But my understanding of North Carolina law is that a new election can be ordered if there is merely âtaintâ that âcast doubtâ on the electionâs fairness:
But, according to state law, the elections board can call a new election if it determines âthat the irregularities or improprieties occurred to such an extent that they taint the result of the entire election and cast doubt on its fairness.â
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article222563145.html
This condition has the attractive property (for the GOP) of being impossible to prove.
It was my understanding that Dowless has been contracting with the NC GOP for the last 8 years, so how many elections should be reviewed?
+1. The problem is not just that the Râs candidate - the mega-church pastor - was falsifying absentee ballots - it was that he evidently tossed away several thousand ballots that he âharvestedâ from Democratic voters, and assumed were not favorable to the Republican.
Over time people will go ask those voters (a) did you vote? (b) did you vote for the D? (c) did you give the ballot to one of Harrisâs paid collectors, then will (d) go and find out that this ballot was not turned in.
No way its not more than the 905 vote margin at issue.
Plus I might add, Harris is a real dickhead, and the incumbent congress-critter (himself not so clean) clearly would like to see him go down, and hopefully do some hard time. This tends to undercut Mark âpieces of silverâ Harris as he tries to hold back the wall of fraud that is about to drown him.
So the Republican argument is that âa little bit of cheatingâ is alright as long as it didnât overturn the election result? Itâs like they get to a point you think they canât be any more shameless, and then figure out a way to prove us all wrong about that.
It really is amazing how blatant they are being nowâŚthe desperation is setting in, as Republicans around the nation realize that democracy is going to cast them out of office, so they prove that they should not be in office in every way they can in a blatant attempt to remain in power. The attitude of the Republican party, for a while now, has been that they are the only ones that should be running the nationâŚmaybe that attitude is finally going to receive the adjustment it deserves.
The next time a republican screams about âvoter fraudâ any major media outlet that runs that headline needs to be called out by the Dems. This story is getting so little coverage compared to any baseless accusation a republican makes itâs ridiculous. (Iâm looking at you âliberalâ NYT who instead of this is promoting a story questioning Warrens DNA test).
Boss Lady Pelosi has been suggested for her title.
Iâm in awe of the discipline of the North Carolina voters in not wanting to reach out to every Republican bottom feeder and kick their ass. It is going to take a lot of confrontation and brawling with Republicans to stop this naked power grab and rank hypocrisy.
Why give a cheater a do-over? Declare the D the winner based on there being more than enough illegally destroyed ballots to have given him the race. If a student cheats on an exam, they donât get to re-take it, they get a zero and maybe a suspension/expulsion from school.
This is what happens when someone thinks only on the short term
Or maybe NYT is covering it.
Mr. Woodhouseâs statements on Thursday appeared to reflect both the political realities on Capitol Hill and the mounting worries of North Carolina Republicans, who have spent years crusading against fraud and now see one of their candidates as a potential beneficiary.
Iâve said it before, but I do not believe a new election is warranted here. The cheating was rampant on the GOP side and their candidate should simply be disqualified and potentially face prosecution. The seat should be awarded to McCready. Nancy Pelosi should only seat McCready and no one else for the NC-09 seat.
There is no good reason why the GOP should get another bite at this apple having cheated in both the primary and the general election. McCready got the 2nd highest recorded total of votes. It was untainted. There is a strong case to be made that absent the fraud he wouldâve won. That said, I donât think affecting the outcome is required to disqualify the GOP candidate (Harris) when you have this much evidence of intentionally illegal acts.
If we are going to turn back the GOPâs obsession with Jim Crow, they need to face real consequences for cheating. They need to lose seats, be disqualified from competing or re-competing seats and should face investigations.
Harris under no circumstances can be declared the winner unless it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that neither he nor his campaign were involved in the cheating. Highly unlikely. McGready should be declared the winner.
They SOFTENED their objections??? They were the ones that committed the FRAUD!!!
âIf they can show with certainty that the outcome could NOT have been changed, they need to certify Mr. Harris and continue to support all state and federal criminal investigations,"
Thank you for illustrating why the NC GOP is busy trying to mandate that a GOPer control the election board every election year.