Discussion: Muslim Mosques, Prayer Hall Targeted In France After Charlie Hebdo Attack

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Well, this is certain to help everything.

“local prosecutors have described the attacks as ‘criminal’ acts”

And yet they are not. They are domestic terrorism, just as much as the attack they’re using as an excuse. There’s a reason Hammurabi’s Code went out of fashion.

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How about some judicious revenge-spritzing with “Charlie”?

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Quelle surprise.

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Yeah, this won’t help, just keep the antagonism drawing in folks who weren’t previously involved. You think the attacker don’t like Muslim sites being attacked, they love it!

My idea is that every newpaper in France (maybe around the world) should have a Charlie Hebdo day where they publish copies of CH cartoons mocking Islam on the front page. You go after one, they all respond. Then the attackers lose, they can’t blow up all the newspapers.

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Not helpful, but at the same time not surprising.

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I’m a Democrat, I think Obama is the best president since Harry Truman and I consider myself an enlightened individual.
But you know: I read this story and my reaction was, “Good.” And if I find out the French police wind up torturing the people who did this, I won’t lose a moment’s sleep.

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These attacks are precisely what the murderers were looking to precipitate. Before they’re going to have success recruiting from the French Muslim population, they have to radicalize them and isolate them from French society. As always, it’s not the act that’s the real damage, it’s the (over) reaction that they’re counting on.

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Maybe if people do nothing, they’ll go away!

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Exactly.

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““Anu and Bel called by name me, Hammurabi, the exalted prince, who
feared God, to bring about the rule of righteousness in the land, to
destroy the wicked and the evil-doers; so that the strong should not
harm the weak; so that I should rule over the black-headed people like
Shamash, and enlighten the land, to further the well-being of mankind
…” So begins the Law Code of Hammurabi, a list of nearly 300 laws
etched into a two and one-half meter high black diorite pillar,
discovered in 1902 but dating back to the time of Hammurabi himself
(1792-1750 B.C.E).
Some laws were quite brutal, others rather
progressive. Members of the upper-class often received harsher
punishments than commoners, and women had quite a few important rights.”

The above is a quote I found at:
http://www.ushistory.org/civ/4c.asp

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What?? 12 dead and others wounded wasn’t the real damage? What planet do you live on? From the article:
“Fortunately, none of the incidents resulted in casualties. However,
local prosecutors have described the attacks as “criminal” acts, AFP
reported.”
So, your “real damage” was committed on BUILDINGS not people. I think you better look to your false equivalency.

Edit: One thing I have got to add… CNN’s Christianne Ammanpour is reporting that there’s going to be a huge march tonight…a peaceful vigil against terrorism in central Paris. CNN says the organizers are hoping for a million folks to turn out. There were hundreds of thousands who turned out in cities all across the world in a worldwide vigil against terrorism. If only two Muslim buildings were attacked in France since this despicable attack then I’d say the jihadists have lost in a big big way. John Kerry spoke at length about the attack directly to the French population. He spoke to them directly and the result is huge profound appreciation toward the US for our support. The Jihadists are gonna lose.

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We certainly set an example for others to not follow. Hopefully, some people actually do learn from history’s “mistakes.”

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I do hope that those who can learn from past mistakes get elected to office.
That’s my hope but reality seems to have intruded and we’ve elected majorities in the House and Senate who are not interested in learning anything.

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Yes, CO is exactly right. The direct damage from a terrorist act is rarely its most serious, which is arguably what distinguishes terrorism from acts of war. Consider 9/11. The real damage was the Patriot Act, the alteration of our mindset to accept surveillance and surrender freedoms with little question, drawing us into pointless and devastating wars, the re-election of Bush, etc. It may sound cold to say it, but by comparison, the destruction of two landmark buildings and the deaths of 3,000 people was minor.

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Conflating what’s happening in France and 9/11 I think is way too much pf a stretch.There are already have been enormous crowds in Paris who held vigils these past 2 nights and there are plans for a truly huge vigil on Sunday. A million people is the hope at this point. I doubt that the French government will ignore this movement b the populace. I was in France last summer and they were already dealing with home grown terrorists. They’ll deal with this as well. I don’t think France will react the way the Bush crowd did.