Discussion for article #225172
I’m not sure such laws are intended to deter crime. They’re intended, rightly or wrongly, to allow people to “defend” themselves when they encounter those ubiquitous “criminals” that run rampant in the streets of our country.
Granted, homicides are up, but Freedom!™
Gee, it appears Wyatt Earp was right after all. What a surprise !!!
Uh-oh, I see a sudden cut in funding for those departments at Georgia State and Texas A&M. They can’t be distributing studies like that, showing that allowing people to shoot other people causes homicides to increase.
So with the GA guns everywhere law, are those researchers going to start getting armed visits as well? That’ll teach them to disagree with gun nuts, a little scared straight for the second amendment.
Well good now that this study has been published it will change absolutely no-ones mind.
OMG! Research! Kill it! Kill it! Shoot it with your GUNZ!!!
“Homicides increase under the “castle doctrine” or Stand Your Ground laws, according to two studies published since 2012, while the laws do not appear to deter crime in any significant way.”
And your point is?
If your ears are popping, it must be because the air pressure dropped from everyone gasping in surprise at once.
Not a surprise. This is a feature not a bug.
Well, well, motherfucking well…what a surprise.
I believe the only take away on this is that more guns do not make us safer.
Logically speaking if there were no guns there would be no gun deaths. We already know that there are over 30,000 gunshot deaths in the US with current ownership (about 20,000 are suicides). If we increase gun ownership there will be more deaths and more suicides.
Next year in the USA there will be more deaths by gunshot than by vehicles. This is especially profound when you look at the prevalence and usage of automobiles compared to guns. Yet we found the courage and legislation to make cars safer why not the same with guns?
Do fucking tell…now hold my beer…
Maybe, but…
“It also notably found that Stand Your Ground laws did not lead to a greater prevalence of guns.”
is most definitely a bug. The entire purpose is to sell more guns and ammo.
Funny how ineffective, even harmful, a law can turn out to be when it was designed specifically to make aggressive white cowards feel more safe.
Who could have known?
I doubt if proponents of such laws would think that this is a serious shortcoming. Their purpose, as I understand it, is to enable white people to use lethal force when they feel that they are threatened or possibly could be threatened. I see no reason to think that they do not achieve that purpose.
Their purpose, as I understand it, is to enable white MEN to use lethal force when they feel that they are threatened . . . fixed it for you!
So you’re saying the new GOP law works as well as trickle down economics, voter id and contraception access?
Huh. Always wrong. Never uncertain.
Bah! Nice try, libs! Don’t try to confuse us with your so-called “research” and “statistics” and “scientific method” by your ivory tower academics who you wouldn’t let park your car! Everybody Knows that this can’t be true. Guns are less dangerous than hammers and swimming pools and the more we have the safer we are from the criminal hordes! It’s just Good Old Fashioned Common Sense!
Obviously, every single one of those extra dead people are people who had it coming to them!
They’re not intended to deter crime. That’s not the purpose of these laws at all. They are meant to legalize modern lynching.
For their actual purpose, they are a great success.