Discussion: Mueller Team Hasn't Ruled Out More Charges Against Paul Manafort

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Fuck this guy in particular.

Bounce the rubble, y’all.

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More speaking indictments!

Manafort may be the great railway to know what Trump & company conspired to do.

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The willingness to try these charges and to go public with Manafort’s alleged plea agreement violations suggest that Mueller may never have trusted Manafort with anything relating to Trump as is suggested (though not conclusively) by the recent WSJ piece. It’s quite possible that Downing was lying to Rudy about questions that Mueller was asking on Trump related matters to induce a pardon, but neglected to tell his client not to lie to prosecutors on other non-Trump related matters.

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Sentencing on March 5? That will give Paulie time to ponder dying in prison.

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Please proceed, Mr. Mueller.

I just hope that there are also a boatload of non-federal, non-pardonable charges on Paulie Walnuts to keep the pressure on him.

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The most surprising thing about the new developments is that it’s lookimg more and more like the whole thing was being masterminded by . . . Frank Stallone.

Seriously, though, it’s still kind of remarkable how brazen all these scumbags were anout their actions, and how even more brazen they were, and still are, about lying. They’re not only lying traitors, frauds, and con men, they’re all mind-boggligly stupid, too. It’s remarkable that this cast of clowns didn’t wander into traffic or fall into an open well some point.

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Manafort is between the proverbial “rock and a hard place”. His options are to either face Putin’s brand of “justice” or Mueller’s. Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose.

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Put off the charges until 2021, so that Trump can’t pardon him.

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I think many people (this week) forgot that Pauli Walnuts has absolutely NOTHING to lose by lying or acting illegally from the moment he was found guilty in his first trial. Setting his massive ego and entitlement by corruption mind-set aside – given how many things he is awaiting sentencing on, at 69 years old any sentence will be an end of life sentence. He will be dying in jail of old age. Or polonium poisoning. So, he is a rational actor in that he has every incentive to lie and continue lying. Moreover, given that the plea deal took his houses and ill-gotten lucre, probably little to literally give up.

More charges? Ok. Bring them on. He does not care. Why should he? A pardon is his only option and then to flee the country to Russia before multiple states charges can be brought against him.

And I think Bobby Three Sticks anticipated this and most likely fed him many junk questions to set the Orange Fuhrer up. It will be fascinating to see how much is reflected in the written answers. Granted they will be couched in ‘to the best of my recollection’ but that is what electronic records are for. :wink:

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Paul Manafort doesn’t know how not to be crooked. He’s just been able to escape until now. Go get him!

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If it’s obvious that treason has been committed, would Dems actually pursue? Or once again will they tell us to ‘look forward, not backward’? They wouldn’t pursue an unnecessary, trumped up war that cost 5 trillion. They wouldn’t pursue a banking industry that committed widespread fraud and almost brought us to a 2nd Great Depression. Is treason where Democrats draw the line? I highly doubt it…

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Sure, sure…it looks bad for Manafort.

More charges mean more guilty verdicts and more prison time.

On top of the maximum Mueller’s already seeking – and whatever state charges hit him.

But with time off for good behavior and parole, Manafort could slash his eventual sentence by decades.

He might serve as little as 60 years – 50 tops…

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I think he should wear the ostrich jacket to the sentencing.

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Yes. Manafort already bids fair to spend the rest of his life in prison (barring a presidential pardon that looks more perilous for tRump every day), so more charges aren’t going to change anything in that respect. But as a window on Trumpworld, they might be invaluable.

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Hoping that it’s already been seized by OSC; who know what it could fetch at auction to help defray cost of the investigation.

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It sounds like Manafort just can’t help himself. He is a crook. Send him to jail for the rest of his miserable life.

Actually there might be some truth to the idea that Manafort has staying alive on his bucket list and if he were to go free Putin would probably make sure he is scattered in several buckets.

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A lot of orgasms this week, can we handle a Friday news dump multi?

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The FCPA stuff is tantalizing. It’s a broad and unforgiving statute. DOJ under Bush was very aggressive in expanding liability scope under this law. There are no minor exceptions. If you talk to experts in that field, they’ll tell you even giving a foreign official box seat baseball tickets in exchange for some official act that benefits one’s interests trips the statute.

The political implications of FCPA are even better. It’s an easy one for Democrats to use to highlight Trump’s essential corruption and it puts the GOP on the defensive. It’s harder for the GOP to run an aggressive campaign through Fox justifying this kind of grift because it has no appreciable benefit to their culture war or to ‘own the libs’. It’s naked corruption. It doesn’t play well in middle America and especially in the suburbs.

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