Discussion: MSNBC's Hayes: We Should Have Played Bill Clinton Remarks In Full

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Sloppy work, at a minimum; possibly biased work by somebody at MSNBC. Whichever, MSNBC should be mightily ashamed, and should take serious efforts to try to undo the harm done.

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It seems Comcast, owners of NBC, would love to fuel the “Democrats in disarray” meme.

So much for the “liberal media.”

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“We did not characterize Clinton as trashing the president or slamming him, as some others did. We said he went off-message, which is arguably true,” he continued.

It’s not arguably true. Providing the full context shows that. Hayes is a Bernie supporter and he’s not being honest here about why he did what he did.

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I guess they are trying to make it seem as if Clinton has the same view as Sanders, who seems to repeatedly shoot himself in the foot on this point.

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That’s some epic bullshittery, there. “Bill Clinton has gone off-message, and we’ve doctored the evidence to show just that!”

No, Chris, you “shouldn’t have done that”.

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That’s why anyone who gets their info from these cable talking heads is never getting the full story. The difference between FOX and MSNBC is that FOX makes stuff up. But MSNBC is very adept at “leaving stuff out”.

But then again, their function is entertainment/ratings.

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C’mon Chris. What is ‘arguably true’ is that you at MSNBC have decided on Bernie vs. Trump and will ‘trash’ all others by pretending it’s a ‘editing mistake’.

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We regret being caught totally in the bag for Sanders just like all our nighttime shows

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Yep, that was a hatchet job. Aside from the rest of the context, it was pretty clear that Bill wasn’t saying we didn’t have a president who was a “change-maker,” he said we didn’t have a president who was a “change-maker” at the same time as a Congress that would go along with the change. Which, by the way, is the same problem Hillary OR Bernie would have if we cannot make significant gains in Congress.

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Yes for sure. I had hopes for MSNBC but since they revamped their show and lineup it has become unwatchable - except for Rachel and Lawrence O’Donnell. Hayes is so far in the tank for Bernie he can’t even hide it.

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I can’t watch MSNBC anymore.

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Extremely sloppier media work of late
The notorious Jan Crawford on CBS this morning said, of the Scalia political situation, Republicans and Democrats do the same thing
Republicans block a nominee but then Hillary “blocked a vote” for a nominee. I guess Jan forgot to mention the hearing Republicans want to block that Hillary didn’t block back in the past that Rethugs must relitigate endlessly with made up information.
Fixed games
Countering this BS is the key to Trump’s own fixed game success and, yet, the fixed game conditioned elites still push their luck
sad, for them.

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I can get Hayes’ bullshit from RedState sans the apologies and contorted explanations.

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I don’t watch his show much anyway. The few times I have been turned in, I have never been that impressed. I know a lot of people go on about him, but I’ve never seen it. There is a certain
“amateurish” quality to his show that I can’t quite wrap my head around.

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“We said he went off-message, which is arguably true” BS - it is not ‘arguably true’

  • don’t try to muddle the facts.

Hayes acknowledged that he “did not provide the context” - but that was a piss poor acknowledgment

when you amputate a portion of someone’s statement - such that it makes it sound like they were expressing something that they clearly were not - that is NOT ‘oh gosh! I guess we didn’t provide full context’ - - that is manipulation of the truth ( my parents would call it a lie)

-this kind of crap falls into essentially the same bucket as 'when did you stop beating your wife?" questions 
 and intentional misquotes / lies that are subsequently walked back by saying “I misspoke”

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If Bernie loses the nomination it won’t be because MSNBC, including Joe Scarborough, didn’t do everything they could to help him.

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Couldn’t believe when I saw Steve Kornacki this morning on MSNBC. He was trying to make (read: create) a point that Clinton, as Senator, filibustered Sam Alito’s nomination.

The whole time I was thinking, but Alito was allowed to even come up for a vote, now wasn’t he? Kornacki insisted on perpetrating the illusion that Clinton was doing the same thing as the Rethugs are doing right now. Really disgraceful.

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Sloppy deceptive journalism. America deserves better. A Democracy needs better. How different is Fox news? Just asking.

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