Larry Craig; Al Franken, Garrison Keillor- must be something in the Land of 10,000 Lakes water.
It’s been a quiet week in Lake Wobegon. Looks like that might be a permanent condition.
Good riddance, you smug, faux-populist windbag.
All is not well in Lake groper be gone.
Where oh where have the “where does it end?” and the “men can’t be men anymore” crowd gone? They were certainly out in force when this happened. I remember that our government was going to collapse–COLLAPSE I TELL YOU!–because Franken resigned and Keillor was yet another victim the #metoo man hating police.
I am trying to think of any of the email messages I’ve sent with colleagues over the decades that, even with seriously selective editing, could be read to imply “inappropriate” anything. And that’s speaking as someone who has dated co-workers.
Considering a majority of women voted for the pussy grabber in office under the theory of “boys will be boys” the last flavor of human I want hearing from about any of this is the female. The men are bad enough, they’re just pigs. The women are just hypocrites. Oh, and by the way, gave birth and raised those boys to become the men they are.
Ok, start the tomato and furniture throwing - i’ll be under my desk. You now, Korea and all.
I remember gently suggesting there might well be more to this than Keillor said, that he was a strange, hostile guy, and that he was also a huge bringer in of cash for MPR and public radio generally. They wouldn’t have pushed him out without there being a real problem, I thought. It would be like Disney firing Mickey. I don’t remember getting a lot of attaboys for that. People wanted to see it as a huge overreaction and a deplorable descent into guilt by chromosomes etc. etc. we all remember. And no, none of this proves anything but we know this stuff goes on. Just saying.
“I meant to pat her back after she told me about her unhappiness, and her shirt was open and my hand went up it about six inches…"
I’ve consoled dozens of women and this always happens to me too, so I completely understand.
Has anyone considered the mechanics of this statement for a minute?
Unless she was wearing something completely inappropriate for an office, her (open) shirt would still end roughly at her waist. Absent some kind of Marilyn-style ventilation event, that means his hand would have had to be at or below that level to accidentally slide up onto her bare back. And he calls someone else’s statement imaginative.
Yeah, that struck me as weird too. Although I can see that if there is a relatively short top and she was sitting down and bending over with her face to her knees, her waist might be exposed. Or if for some reason she was wearing something for a party and not for the office.
In any case, it did seem like an overreaction given that we only had his description of one event. As @mattinpa pointed out, there had to be more to the story.
That would be a majority of WHITE women, not women in general.
I agree. His story had to be utter bullshit, because even if the back patting was true, it never would lead to the firing of an icon…not that I ever cared for the show. Afraid, same would be found for Lizza, whose reporting I always enjoyed…esp the Scaramucci outing. Denials of misconduct, but silence about the actual allegations, is not convincing. That’s not to say perps should be blacklisted forever…punishment should fit offense.
They’re both very talented top-of-their profession people, and in both cases it’s a loss to the public. But there’s a liability to having a known harasser in your employ, so…
Yeah, this was obvious from day one.
What am I missing in this ongoing public radio drama? There is now a second accuser with allegations that is being used to justify the firing and purging of PHC episodes but MPR management demanded access to private emails to do more fishing for more to justify their actions?
I agreed with you on that, I think
No employer has ever fired a white man who brings in lots of money because of a single complaint from a single female that did not involve criminal charges. I was a fan, but he clearly enjoyed seeing what he could get away with on air, and apparently that was a fun game without a large audience as well. It’s especially depressing to see men who made a career being more or less erudite (see also, Charlie Rose) spending their off-camera/radio time deluding themselves to justify manipulation and harassment of women. What a waste.
Apparently Keillor’s idea of companionship is different than a lot of women’s.