Discussion for article #224081
What a handsome photo of our President. He lowers my BP just looking at him. Thank you Mr. President
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“Anonymous insurance executives warned that they might triple their rates in 2015. Some in the conservative blogosphere have sounded the same alarm. But it doesn’t look like those warnings have much merit – at least based on the early evidence.”
Translated to read - lying GOPERs
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And premiums are going up. But it is difficult to connect those increases to Obamacare. As CNBC reported earlier this month, premiums in the individual market increased by an average of 10 percent between 2008 and 2010.
Well, let’s see…hmmm…if next year insurance premiums will increase 10% but in 2008-2010 they were raised by 5% each year, then it would not be wrong to state that Obamacare contributed in one year for a 100% increase on the average annual increase.
When I was on BCBS in Arizona, coverage just for me alone, between 2005 and 2009, my premiums increased 10-15% every single year. They pretty much increased it as much as they legally could, citing cost increases despite record profits year after year. I went on my wife’s insurance in 2009 and my last premium w/ decent coverage under BCBS was somewhere around $260/month. I checked the ACA website last January to see what my premiums would be under a Silver plan and they ranged from about $190 to $250 depending on what provider and some coverage variables. I call that a big huge deal and a move in the right direction. Not perfect, but much much better.
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Jeez, Dylan is hard to convince – as for me…I just considered the source.
So do you have a source for insurance premiums only going up 5% during those years? Or are you pulling this number out your ass.
Next the right was claiming there would be double digit increase so story is correct.
At some point you are going to have admit you were wrong about Obamacare and you bought into all the lies fed to you about it. If you don’t you might as well admit that you are a paranoid delusional and get some help.
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BTW
Uninsured Americans 2012: More Than 45 Million Lacked Health Insurance Last Year, CDC Reports
Obamacare mandates that EVERYONE must have health insurance in 2014. So the 8 millions newly (?) insured so far are just a little part of the whole picture. How can Obamacare be called a success?
You really are about as clueless as they come on this subject. The number now insured including Medicaid expansion in somewhere between 24 and 28 million. Next no one predicted PPACA would cover all the uninsured. The best people were hoping for was somewhere close to 40 million and that was by 2016 not the first year.
Just a heads up even single payer, universal coverage never covers everybody. The best that universal coverage can ever do is about 90% at any given time.
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Forgetting the 8.6 million who signed up for Medicaid, and the 3 million under-26ers who are now covered on parents’ plans. And leaving out the additional millions who would be covered under Medicaid if not for the red states’ insistence on not expanding the program. And the 12 million ineligible for coverage due to citizenship/residency status. So add that to the over 8 million who signed up for a plan and I think it’s doing a pretty damn good job.
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We all know damned well that whatever the number is, 8%, anything will be deemed to be “skyrocketing”. Either that, or, they’re cooking the books. Again!
This crap gets really old.
Libs you are the worst kind of cowardly troll. You get questioned time and time again on your "facts,’ But you are too much of a coward to defend them. Or is it you really know what you are spouting is bull shit and you are too embarrassed to defend them for what they are paying you?
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What no sense (as always).
According to the Aon Hewitt survey data (which is the industry standard) the national average of insurance rates:
2014 $11,696
2013 $10,880
2012 $10,375
2011 $9,833
2010 $9,103
2009 $8,461
2008 $7,975
I know math is hard, but the rate change between 2008 and 2010 was:
2008 - 2009 = 6.09%
2009 - 2010 = 7.59%
For a cumulative change of 14.14%.
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More sputtering nonsense, The 8 million was for on exchange private insurance plans, which does not include Medicaid expansion, off-exchange plans, etc.
Over 28 million now have coverage in total who didn’t have it before.
My company was with and had been with BCBS for years when Ocare started. They were going to raise rates like 40%. We shopped around and went to Unitedhealthcare and our rates actually dropped. I wanted to laugh so hard at all the conservative whiners that where bitching about Ocare costing them more. My thought was BCBS was just trying to jack rates and blame Ocare as the reason.
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There appears to be a typo in the text: It talks about “significant variation across states in flat price,” then gives an example of two states that are $6 apart. Oregon at $272 and Vermont at $266 is not “significant variation.”