Discussion: Mitch McConnell's Senate Majority In Danger With Trump, Cruz

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Both Turtle and McCrashcup are citing all the good work done in the Senate. Talk about an alternate universe.

And as for McCrashcup’s reelection, here’s hoping he’s slapped to the ground and promptly run over by a passing Grand Canyon Tours bus, preferably full of Latinos.

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It’s perverse to no end that the Senate’s finally getting things done because the Democratic Caucus, as a whole, actually cares about governing more than partisan gain at the expense of country.

And it’s irksome to no end to watch Sen. Dirty Air – who boasted in 2009 that he cared more about defeating Obama than about governing – strut over achievements that he owes entirely to Democratic senators who placed patriotism ahead of party.

What sweet justice it would be to watch Sen. Dirty Air’s bette noir from Texas become the nominee and circumcise the GOP coattails. Oh, please, please, please, God – let this happen.

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The article keeps referring to some hypothetical GOP middle. It doesn’t exist. The only distinguishing difference is that one wing of the party would burn crosses on the white house lawn, and the other would use dog whistles.

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Cruz or Trump would be bad for McConnell? I’m pretty sure they’ll be bad for the whole country.

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Yertle the Turtle would lose his lofty perch…

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Just like the Turtle.

McConnell one of the more corrupted, but independent thinkers, thinks he will lose his majority…GOOD, the republican party has taken this nation to the edge of fascism…they have taken us down a road that we may not be able to negotiate without bloodshed…these folks think “WAR” is everything…the war on christmas, the war on poverty, in which poverty is winning…these folks are what our founding fathers predicted, and tried to protect us from…but it seems a scrap of paper means nothing to fascists…

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“If you look specifically at Kelly Ayotte’s race, her race is generally a race to hold the middle,” said New Hampshire GOP operative Tom Rath. “I think she is firmly planted there. The only way to move her out of that is if the national ticket moves strongly to the right. You cannot ask the senator to run 15 points ahead of the top of the ticket.”

Seriously? According to you–and the senator herself–Ayotte is smack-dab in the “middle.” Personally, I don’t think that but for the sake of argument … if the top of the ticket (Trump or Cruz?) is running 15 points under Ayotte, are you suggesting she trek to even crazier territory? … just so as to be in line with the crazy? (meaning she lose 15 points!) … a crazy where even she might feel she doesn’t belong? I don’t know.

“You hope the American people would examine what we in the Senate have done no matter what, but it is always obvious that top of the ticket does affect elections. Life isn’t fair,” McCain said.

Yes, Senator McCain, the American people are examining – and they’re not liking what you Republicans have been pushing through. Your side is going to lose a good number of seats this cycle … maybe even lose control of the Senate itself. Life can be fairer than you might sometimes realize, Senator.

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And of course McCain brought it all on his party with his selection of Caribou Barbie as his running mate, elevating the Teabagger’s political status. With a huge assist from the media too.

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Thank you! Today’s “middle” resides halfway between a real center and whatever Ted Cruz spews – which means today’s “middle” is awfully far over to the right. By and large, the Democrats have strayed to the right over the last 30, 40 years – not nearly as much as the GOP, but they have on nearly everything that is not considered “social” or “civil rights.” The GOP has lost 98.5% of their former “middle” (past New Englanders and West Coasters with a few sprinkled in between). The Democrats are far more hawkish and far more tight-assed when it comes to budgetary items.

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As a kid, I started a collection of turtle figurines, carvings, etc. I still collect. I have some sort of ancient spiritual connection to turtles (and trees). I absolutely hate it that the jack-ass known as McConnell resembles a turtle. He does them no favors. As a matter of fact, McConnell’s environmental policies have killed far more turtles than policies of all the Bushes combined have killed humans.

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“You hope the American people would examine what we in the Senate have done no matter what, but it is always obvious that top of the ticket does affect elections. Life isn’t fair,” McCain said.

Actually, that couldn’t be more fair.

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The nation is off the chain. I doubt a Cruz or Trump Presidency will hurt things in the coattail elections. Just as likely the skinheads, evangelicals, Tea Partiers, homophobes, xenophobes and racists all band together, get motivated to vote, and Republicans increase their majorities in Congress. The same people predicting electoral disaster for the GOP in Congress are the ones expecting Trump’s next asinine statement to sink his polling and candidacy. It’s not happening. Cruz and Trump are giving the people what they want. I see them being rewarded in the Senate and House races for their bombastic hatred and venom.

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I, for one, will be discussing this week when I visit home the importance of staying registered and actually voting. I will be selective in who I speak with. There are a few family and friends who almost always vote Republican. Though I’d never think of denying them the right to vote, neither will I be reminding them of the importance of showing up to the polls. They are pretty reliable anyway. That said, I do know three who are very disgusted with Trump and even Cruz … they’ve implied they will be staying home or voting third-party. I will be doing my part. :wink:

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Shouldn’t it be on topic here that McConnell is a deeply evil man, who has consistently, explicitly led the campaign of lies and sabotage against the presidency and America?

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McConnell has been dealing with Cruz for some time now. He and the rest of the Republican Party made this dirty, bigoted and anarchic bed and will have to lie in it if the national electorate doesn’t see the light.

I don’t feel sorry for McConnell. He said he would make President Obama fail just because he was a black man and a Democrat. Instead it was he who failed this country…almost as miserably as George W. Bush. But then he still has time, doesn’t he?

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It would very unlikely historically, and extremely embarrassing, to have a Senator polling 15 points better than the top of the ticket because she is totally rejecting the party’s platform.

But your analysis is correct…if Trump or Cruz is at the top of the ticket (or possibly both), we may very well see republican Senators polling much better than the presidential nominee.

Ayotte is probably not the example, however. Even though the Democratic candidates all pretty much threw Hassan under the bus at the last debate, I think the race is still going to be very close. I don’t see either candidate opening up a 15 point lead.

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“We have an extraordinarily strong record of accomplishment for our 2016 class to run on. We have been able to get through bills that have languished for years,” said Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME). "McConnell is key to it. "

That is what the reality is behind this statement. McConnell refused to allow any legislation to go forward, no matter how bipartisan or benign it was…simply because republicans were in the minority and a Democrat was in the White House.

Once republicans got a majority, it was fairly easy to pass things that everyone wanted.

Its an incredible misrepresentation that Collins is laying out there, all the more so because she knows perfectly well what has been happening.

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(Sighs). Well, as many of us on these pages have opined lately – we are no longer anywhere near Kansas anymore. Old rules of the political world have been tossed on their ears.