Discussion for article #240447
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Turtle sense.
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The GOP has absolutely no interest in governing. They are only there to fleece money from the rubes. Mitch and friends helped create this beast, and now they can no longer control it.
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GOP Stragery in action…
- Pick a policy that is highly emotional with the rubes
- Threaten to shut down government to stop this policy, whether or not the shut down could actually accomplish this.
- Send out fund raising letters to rubes about how you are sticking it to Obama and Dems in general
4)Watch the campaign donations flow into your coffers - Shut down the government and try to blame on Dems
- If Dems can’t be blamed, rely on the short memory of the American public to absolve you of any blame.
- Repeat as necessary
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Pretty much. The GOP are banking on fear, hatred and loathing to keep their gravy train rolling. The problem is that, at this rate, the US will be a wasteland in short order and the money will stop rolling upwards. If I was the Democrats I’d be mocking the GOP about how they want to return the US to the 13th Century. Which, in fact, they do.
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How about you get what you want by legislating and debating your side of the argument. And then when you lose, you lose. The last government shut down cost over $2 billion. And they’re willing to do this over spending 1/4 that amount on services that help women. Fuck them all straight to hell.
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McConnell was framing the debate as he wants it framed—by claiming that the dispute is over abortion. As abortion rights receive absolutely no budgetary support in the first place AND because the funding issue is to cut off Planned Parenthood which provides comprehensive health care to poor women, the issue would be more correctly framed with that in mind: that the GOP is seeking to shutdown the government as part of their attack on women’s healthcare.
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McConnell appeals to conservatives’ practical side. ROFL.
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The 13th Century in the United States was certainly less white man centric than today lol. Perhaps you meant 18th?
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And McConnell knows that. He knows that is exactly how Dems, and surprisingly, probably the media to some degree, will frame the issue and beat the ever loving crap out of republicans on the campaign trail until next November. That is why he is so desperate to defuse this shutdown plan.
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13th Century Europe…the GOP and especially the Koch Brothers idealize the concept of Feudalism. They believe that the rich deserve to be rich and should exploit everyone else for their own gain. Of course, their understanding of Feudalism is flawed in that up to about the rise of the professional army, the Feudal Lord did not exactly exploit the workers living on his land. The Feudal Lord was supposed to provide protection and security for the farmers and workers of his holdings. It isn’t until the nations had professional standing armies that we get the rich fully exploiting the workers on their lands, or in their companies. Unfortunately, the way the economy works now, the exploitation of workers is actually detrimental to the overall economy and men like the Koch Brothers contribute very little to the economic health of the world. Up until the Industrial Revolution, the economy was driven mostly by sustenance. That is, most of the economy was driven by food production and the production of the goods needed to produce those foods. The rich were the only ones who could afford a lot of goods, and even the middle class could only afford a certain amount of those. With the Industrial Revolution came a period of growth of goods which needed to be bought by someone. While this enriched the upper classes, it was tempered by the fact that they could not be too rich or the middle classes would become too poor to buy their goods. Ultimately, what the GOP wants is to keep pushing an exploitable workforce which they can then use to make tons of money, and the problem is that isn’t happening any more because it destroys the flow of money.
Sorry for the long explanation.
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And it’s not like McConnell wasn’t there for this little piece of history:
Government shutdowns have routinely come back to bite the GOP. Pretty much every single time they have either threatened it or enacted it. I’m not sure if ODS also causes short-term or long-term memory loss, but this is not a winning strategy for most of the country’s voters.
At some point, they have to realize that doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is insanity. I would be cautious about what other options they might enact, but this one sure isn’t working for them.
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And the conservatives detest him as much as the rest of us so he’s going to have a hard time with this. His real purpose however, is not avoiding a shutdown, it is to save his own ass and not look like the weak leader that he now is. But, he helped build that so he can just live with it.
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It is excellently written…
Unfortunately, Goober, Bubba and Cleetis aren’t interested.
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TPM:
“Shutting down the government, it doesn’t defund Planned Parenthood any more than shutting down the government two years ago would have defunded Obamacare,” McConnell said …
… subjunctively, as if he were a hero who prevented the last shutdown, despite recorded history that, in fact, there was a shutdown.
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And why wouldn’t they? They’ve already succeeded in returning us to the Gilded Age of the 19th Century. The 13th is the next step - because it’s there.
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MCConnell is gonna need a giant permanent sluice-gate to channel conservatives’ outrage elsewhere.
Your decision to become pragmatic comes a bit late, Senator. Your party is now dominated by screaming, petulant crybabies.
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Apparently … Mitch hasn’t talked this over with Ted —
Can’t wait for the theatrics – Though, I’ve seen the show before —
Popcorn anyone ? ?
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Or the junior Senator from Kentucky.
“We should hold our ground,” Paul said at a rally with anti-abortion groups outside the Capitol, where 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin also made an appearance.“If the Democrats want to shut down government over this, then it goes to Democrats,” he said.
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