Discussion: Mississippi To Bogus 'Election Integrity' Commission: Jump In The Gulf Of Mexico

I have never checked my PM’s… maybe I should?

Well, I am referring to the green dot notice over my avatar in the upper right corner of the screen. Maybe I am using the wrong terminology…

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You’re correct… I should check it just for the nice things people have said which I’ve rudely ignored until today.

Thanks for the heads up!

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A bit OT: States in the South, especially Georgia and Alabama, as well as everywhere else in the country are having a hell of a time finding labor to harvest crops. Farmers in many places have been screaming about immigration reform for years now. Some, like commercial tomato farmers in upstate New York, have simply given up and quit planting altogether.

Now that all of this draconian enforcement is hitting high gear — and getting more severe daily — American farmers can expect huge crop losses due to massive labor shortages. If Comrade Chaos thinks he’s losing heartland supporters now, just wait 'til the fall when the agricultural industry is looking at fields of rotting crops and the farm loans come due. The losses will be staggering; the price of food will rise. Losers all 'round.

Should I mention how successful the Bracero Program was 'til it was nixed in 1964? How the migrantes worked the U.S. fields from south to the north and then back down, eventually heading back to their homes in Mexico and Central America for the winter?

Nah.

Fun Fact: Canada’s agricultural industry is doing just fine labor-wise, thank you.

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They never stopped doing some form of that in California. Big Ag buses them in.

Sure…Happy to help!

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Not quite true. Those buses you see, while owned by the big growers, are busing local workers to the fields, most of whom (98%) have legal status.

This isn’t to say it doesn’t happen, that there’s something I don’t know about. I know they are not, say, busing them across the border en masse to work as day laborers. Of course, my firsthand knowledge is limited to the San Joaquin and Salinas valleys, the Oxnard and Santa Maria (CA) areas, and the areas surrounding Yakima, WA and Yuma, AZ.

Not sure what’s going on anywhere else. I do know that the Latinos are frightened and angry. Mostly frightened.

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Round the decay
Of this colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level waves stretch far away.

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I’m sure your information is more accurate than mine. I lived in San Diego for a long time and do distinctly remember reading regularly in the L.A. Times about the Ag companies getting waivers to bring undocumented workers in, but it certainly wasn’t yesterday.

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Yup. It will be a problem in Eastern WA too. Trump carried that part of the state.

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Hey Gov…

I know Rush Limbaugh said the BP oil spill didn’t do any harm but anyone that lives in the Gulf States ( I do ) knows that’s crap. So why pollute the Gulf of Mexico more with Kobach’s fat ass? I agree he should take a jump but what’s wrong with a lake in Kansas?

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Obviously Trump and the Russians scheming to get all the voter records and Db details for 2018.

Putin won’t be pleased if little Donnie doesn’t deliver by the G-20 private meeting.

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Eastern Washington is a bit of a different story as the farming — wheat, alfalfa — is highly mechanized. Same with the potato growing regions of southeastern Oregon and southern Idaho.

I just happen to know about this because of where I lived. Dragging produce around coast-to-coast for a dozen years also gave me some insight.

I’m a North Coast SoCal kid born in Coronado. The “waivers” the big growers got were not for undocumented workers; the “waiver” itself was documentation. I can’t remember what that “waiver” was called (it was a temporary “green card”) but, geez, that was back in the '60s and '70s, correct?

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The orchards are hit the hardest in Yakima and Wenatchee. A couple of years ago fruit was not picked. Tons of grapes are now grown too but there is some mechanical harvesting -I think.

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Coronado, well. :smile:

Would have been the 80’s at least. I know it stuck with me because of Pete Wilson, and the fact that in that political environment they still did it. At least he got his, probably the single biggest reason the GOP is (mostly) dead in CA.

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Since he’s only 45 miles away might I suggest a 186’ plunge from the Chesapeake Bay Bridge? Either direction. His choice. No big whoop.

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“Mississippi residents should celebrate Independence Day and our State’s right to suppress the vote of our own citizens by conducting our own electoral processes."

It’s great that Mississippi told Kobach to stick it up his ass, but let’s not fool ourselves about the good intentions of the Republicans who run that state.

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Too much even for Mississippi. And let’s remember this when we are tempted to lump all southern, or red, states together.

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Grape growers try to avoid mechanical harvesting whenever possible as it damages the grapes and reduces the yield — the damn machine can’t tell a ripe grape from an unripe grape and harvests it anyway.

I sure miss going through the Fresno-Merced portion of the San Joaquin Valley when they would harvest the Thompson Seedless grapes for golden raisins. They would cut the bunches and throw them down on a newsprint-type paper to dry. I would stop when they were about halfway dried and grab a grocery bag of them to snack on.

Too bad they can’t market them at that stage; still too much moisture in them and they would mold. They’re the best ever!

Another real treat was a late season variety of Pluot (a hybrid that’s 75% plum and 25% apricot) even though I had to pay for those.

*Yum!* ====
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When I mentioned this story at supper, my son said, “When you get Mississippi and California to agree on something, you’ve really messed up!”

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