Discussion for article #241703
Good for her for addressing this. My bet is she will be branded âdifficultâ and âbossyâ like Elaine in Seinfeld for just speaking openly of this. Not sure any of this will impact favorably the struggling single mom in a low wage job, but before anything can change, there must be a spotlight on the problem for all to see.
17 Likes
Was she cowardly enough to use an *?
American Hustle is one of my favorite films, and she all the rest of the actors were terrific. However, actors of both genders get paid far too much even if the film they crank out is shit. Ultimately we who buy tickets at the box office pay them. Perhaps we could just send Lawrence a check and shut her up because sheâs annoying without her actress hat onâŚ
Again, this might have NOTHING to do with my vagina
While many of us have seen selfies of your vagina, there is probably a reason your are being paid less than men and it is institutional and not between your legs.
Iâm all for gender equality in terms of pay, but Iâm going to go out on a limb here and say this is akin to the whole âfirst world problemsâ thing.
You want equal treatment with respect to your pay, Fappening?
Here it is: I have ZERO fucks to give about your pay parity or disparity if youâre making 8 figuresâŚmale or female. Period.
The very last fucking thing I want to hear about is how horrible the pay disparity is in Hollywood, Land of the Golden Brainfart. Weâll no doubt be hearing all about it now, because the MSM has a ridiculous hardon for Fappening, all while everyone ignores the reality of gender pay disparities where it really counts. Oh those poor poor Hollywood whackjobsâŚthe horrorâŚ
4 Likes
Sheâs worth $60 million. Pretty sure sheâs not going to do women any good by complaining she doesnât get her piece of the pie. Maybe she should spend some time volunteering for a womanâs shelter, or something else that has actual societal value.
4 Likes
Pay in general, regardless of gender or anything else, should be transparent. It would inspire those who make less to better themselves to make more, and expose those who make too much without producing results.
8 Likes
You are correct that Lawrence was excellent, but Amy Adams was atrocious.
Dont like the pay scale? Maybe she can find a better paying gig.
1 Like
So⌠since actors of both genders are overpaid, itâs perfectly OK for female actors to be less overpaid than their male counterparts?
20 Likes
âFor some reason, I just canât picture someone saying that about a man.â
Yes, our insulting language for people who piss us off sometimes tends to be different depending on the gender of the target. Whoopty doo. Iâm sure âtalentless pretty-boyâ and âheartthrob meatheadâ and âoverrated walking set of absâ have come up before if Hollywood is anywhere near as creative as it claims to be. I mean, just look at buffoons like Channing Tatum and Ryan Reynolds, who couldnât act their way through a school play.
2 Likes
Simple solution is to work for Scale +25% and get paid on the upside with points if the film is a success. See this general model with Bruce Willis and THE SIXTH SENSE.
1 Like
No, thatâs only in the headline. The quote (even in the same article w/the * in the headline) is âWhen the Sony hack happened and I found out how much less I was being paid than the lucky people with dicks, I didnât get mad at Sony.â
1 Like
No, and thatâs not even what I was trying to say in my first post. I just couldnât give a fuck at that point. Thereâs a difference. And, frankly, some gagillionaire Hollywood diva complaining about it to draw attention to pay discrepancies in Hollywood, is only going to function as a giant distraction from where it happens that actually matters. Itâs akin to the âdonât say the shooterâs nameâ crap. Weâll have the MSM and people all talking about those poor poor hardworking Hollywood actresses and the unfair treatment theyâre getting from Sony and the rest, while nobody cares or does a goddamn thing to lift a finger to fix it or put pressure on employers anywhere else or in any other industryâŚand it will thereby function as our âfeel goodâ fix of the problem. Yay!!! We made sure that Hollywood divas are receiving the right 8 figures instead of the wrong 8 figures!!! Victory for all of womenkind!!! Meanwhile, working women in the rest of society see no change, get no attention and nobody gives a fuck because, well, we already fixed it all when we fixed Hollywood, didnât we?
1 Like
Dude, ease up. She made a point of saying âI donât need the money, but Iâm seeing that this thing happened to me and it has me reflecting on the larger issue of this as a systemic, societal problem for women generally at all wage levels that affects the ones who really do need the money and donât get it.â I mean, that was the whole tone here.
19 Likes
Yes. I donât see why this is a difficult concept to understand.
Actor Aâs movies average $100 mil at the box office. He gets $10 mil.
Actor Bâs movieâs average $50 mil at the box office. He gets $5 mil.
Actress Câs movies average $20 mil at the box office. She getâs $2 mil.
Of course, this is also over simplified as the more revenue a movie makes, the more likely it will be to cover its operating costs and be able to pay higher salaries.
If Actress Câs movies average $100 mil at the box office? She should get $10 mil. But thatâs not the current state of the movie industry. As producers and studios start to develop and fund movies that are female centric that make similar amounts of money, then the women leads who attract audiences should be fairly compensated.
1 Like
Generally, the derogatory language toward men who annoy us is âjerkâ, âjackassâ, âassholeâ, or âpompousâ, âarrogantâ etc. These are insults that carry with them certain implications - arrogance, even conceit, isnât generally taken as totally unearned, but rather thinking youâre even better than you are. Even calling someone an âassholeâ, while it conveys the offense and distaste, doesnât simultaneously paint them as infantile or childish.
âBratâ, on the other hand immediately goes to comparing the actress to a child, before even âspoiledâ comes into play. And âspoiledâ, again, carries connotations of childhood. Whatâs likely tripping Ms. Lawrence here on that particular insult is the way it doesnât just insult, it also condescends. The actress in question isnât just someone who thinks sheâs entitled to more than sheâs earned, sheâs also being painted as a child, with all that that implies: poor decision-making, a need for someone else to tell her what to do, etc.
Men might get called âchildishâ, but typically, a manâs got to be egregiously out of line to get called a âspoiled bratâ - like, something out of a Will Ferrell movie tantrum scene. And somehow, I doubt the woman in question was.
8 Likes
âpaid far too muchâ, so studios should pay them less and make bigger profits? The same complaint is often said about sports, âtheyâre paid too muchâ, but the real alternative is owners (who do very little other than having capital) which get what the players arenât paid.
2 Likes
Fair enoughâŚitâs what I anticipate being heard and how people will react that Iâm most reacting to I suppose. That being said, I honestly have no fucks to give about people making 8 figures whining about it though. You couldnât unfairly pay me to give a fuck.