Discussion: McConnell Takes Step To Fast-Track O'Care Repeal In The Senate

Oh, IDK. Looks to me like a big win for them. Maybe their House majority narrows a bit, but they keep the Senate through 2020 either way, so why not blow it all up and pay out dividends to the donor class? Most of their base will stick with them, regardless, from the hollers of Eastern Kentucky to the swamplands of the Florida Panhandle. Until they die because they can’t access healthcare, anyway, but y’know, can’t make an omelette, etc.

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Clearly the GOP is counting on the blowback (which will happen) coming after the 2018 midterms. Except, it’s happening NOW, as we speak. Some insurers are pulling out of States and telling the general public why they’re doing it. They are pointing the finger at the GOP. By the end of this year, most likely there will be some States with no insurer at all and if rural hospitals really think things are getting dicey, they’ll shut their doors leaving no hospitals for a 25 mile radius.

The Dems’ odds just got better for retaking the House.

marnold I don’t see this as a big win for them at all. They will always have the feral trumpers who wouldn’t leave them if the GOP sent death squads to their houses. But that group is all they have left.

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But do you think Portman, Toomey or Murkowski will vote for it?

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Gee - you’d think they’d also want input from the industry – hospitals, doctor groups, organizations such as Red Cross and American Cancer Society, pharmacists, drug companies , etc. – and consumers when considering health care is 1/6 of the US economy. Hardly a topic best-suited to closed door partisan legislation drafting.

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Fast tracking the tax cut for the rich bill funded by stripping millions of health insurance means one of two things: (1) The Trump GOP Senate has 50 votes, and want it passed quickly so they can go on to finding other ways to fellate the rich; or (2) the Trump GOP has less than 50 votes and want the law killed quickly so they can go on to find other ways to fellate the rich.

Which one is it?

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THe ACA was partly written by health insurance companies. In some ways, the Rethugs are repealing their legislation. They’re not going quietly.

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My hatred for these America-wrecking fucks is so visceral that you’d be better off parading around with a swastika than telling me that you’re a proud Republican.

And I fucking HATE nazis.

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I want to believe that a crushing Democratic wave election is imminent, and that this will set us up for a decadal redistricting that guarantees Democratic competitiveness, if not dominance, for the next couple of decades-worth of Congressional elections. But I keep reading warnings from smart data people that the GOP gerrymander is pretty much impregnable through 2030. Hope they’re wrong, but…

It’s also worrying to me that we’re seeing nothing in the way of a concerted Democratic effort to unfuck data-driven gerrymandering ala the GOP’s 2010 Redmap project. There must be solutions to this, but they’d require coordinated legal and tech/engineering work and probably legislative work (which, um, is a nonstarter because the GOP controls all the legislatures at all levels so nevermind…)

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I remember all those complaints about how the ACA was jammed through in smoke-filled rooms with no hearings. I imagine others do, too.

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What about Collins?

Yeah, she’ll go along. The “moderates” always do.

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Obamacare was coopted from conservatives. They’re only killing it to enrich their benefactors and sully the legacy of that uppity n-clang who got healthcare expanded.

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I hope you’re wrong but fear you’re correct.

Moderate Republicans are like unicorns. It’d be cool if they existed, but alas they’re just fantasies.

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That bitch is the biggest fraud since Amway

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Pretty much all of the healthcare industries are horrified by this legislation. Doesn’t matter. The Chamber of Commerce is no longer the number one constituent – Fox News and the megadonors (Kochs, Mercers, Adelsons, etc.) are. And they care more about making snowflakes cry than they do about making money for blue chip investors

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I think they’re playing with fire. Sure, they’ll try to delay the effects and use a “phase in” to try to mute backlash for 2018 and 2020, but I don’t think that will work. Not this time. They’ll pay. Maybe they think they can afford it or can rig the election systems before it’s too late, but I don’t think they get away with this.

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Hypocrisy is a feature, not a bug, for Republikkkans. The more brazen, the better.

Also the Democrats are fucking epic failures at messaging and political warfare, so don’t hold your breath.

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Aren’t they just a bunch of ratfkers. Our government at work. I guess the old “government of the people, by the people, for the people” is just too much BS these days.

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The Trump GOP doesn’t care that their bill is the product of secret meetings and no public input and the ACA took over a year and had over 70 public hearings and input from many groups. They know their followers also don’t care. Intellectual honesty and integrity aren’t motivating factors for them; just cruelty and greed.

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