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When the Sunday shows canāt book a Republican sure to disagree with Obama, they contact a Democrat sure to do the same.
There are a lot of Democrats out there who are tickled pink at what Obama is [we hope!] about to do on immigration. Not that youād know that, if you only watched TV ānewsā instead of reading TPM and other worthwhile sources.
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She sure didnāt disagree with him very hard. Institutionally, sheās pretty much bound to express some disagreement with executive action on this, but the blast of sanity and, in particular, using her mild expression of disagreement with something she canāt stop to pivot to a full on push back against the MSM compulsion to normalize the crazy and dysfunctionality, Iām okay with it.
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Wonder what the Repubās will have to say about their only hero, Ronnie Raygun and Wās old man, about the following?
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What gets me is that, if the GOP had actually not been pandering so hard to the Right on Immigration Reform over the last three decades and loving the olā Racist Vote for the last forty, we might actually be able to do something sane with regards to Immigration rather than absolve corporations and businesses of their part in using undocumented workers, punishing the workers for coming here, and not providing an alternative.
Iām so fed up with this countryās pandering to the idiots out there who donāt have a scrap of common sense and who reject any and all facts which contradict their hatreds and ill conceived notions. At the rate they are going, the US is going to be a wasteland worse off than a Third World Countryā¦then again, some people like the Kochās want that because then they have a cheap source of labor to exploitā¦but they havenāt figured that without the US marketā¦theyāre seriously effed.
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According to the Republicans, Ronnie did what they say he did not what he actually did.
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Exactly on this point is where Democrats should be screaming from the rooftops with a strong, consistent message. Even though the President has said it, here is where policy needs to be communicated in capital lettersā¦ and THEN the moderate news channels will focus on that.
The common messageā¦
"The Republicans are utterly failing at doing their job. They have had 1 and 1/2 years to address the immigration bill (easily passed bi-partisan in the Senate) and havenāt EVEN allowed debate on it in the House once.
What do they fear? Debate is not a vote, debate is the opportunity to discuss and negotiate. Sitting on a critical issue is obstructionist policy. Failing to legislate.
Their lack of action to an ongoing burning issue has forced the Presidentās hand"
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Letās get back to doing our work instead of just blaming the president for everything," she said. āI am tired of the politics of, āLetās just blame the president. Letās just say everything is wrong with the president. Letās just say everything is wrong with Washington.āā
Well said Senator McCaskill.
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Why does Somalia keep popping into my head?
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Help me out, what does Somalia have to do with immigration reform?
Weāve got the religious fundys lined up. Weāve got a strong minority of folks with arms lined up. Now all we have to do is find the one leader willing to be called a war lord to gather some of the above groups together. What would really make this Somali is if we could get two or more war lords to fight the US govt. and each other.
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Possibly because itās rather close to what we know could happen.
I mean, Kansas is almost there. I think that, Pretty soon, Kansas is going to go full on dystopia.
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the comment about Somalia was in reference to what I wrote about how, by playing to the fears and illogics of certain groups in the US, the GOP is heading us towards complete and total collapse.
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She is what is wrong with the Democratic Party, mushy, lack of spine, wants it both ways, noncommittal, look at me I will not piss off anyone, Iāll be for nothing, the third way.
The GOP narrative is that Reagan was duped by the Democrats into granting amnesty, and proof that you should never work with Democrats.
Hows that saying go?
No man is an Island and then you have this woman being a flea running up and down the dogs back trying to figure out where to bite and draw blood.
Something like that anyway.
Sounds accurate though.
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You know the repubs(small R) canāt handle the truth.
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Of course. They want Reagan to be a saint because the truth is actually far worseā¦that Nancy Reagan and those around President Reagan committed a criminal act by not disclosing the fact that he was showing signs of Alzheimerās in his first term as President. The man needed a seating chart in order to know who his cabinet was, and whom to talk to. According to a person working inside the White House, Reagan spent most of his time watching old movies and not doing much to run the government. This allowed the people around him to pretty much abuse the system. The reality is that Reagan was a very sad figure and not the image that the GOP desperately wants of some Conservative Crusader. A lot of this information comes from people who can be trusted, incidentally. Iāve also known about it for about two decades now.
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Why do McCaskill andFinestein remind of each other ?
exactly!!!
not to leave out frank sinatra who had his own beaten path to the favors of dear nancy in the white house.