This issue became political when Pres. Obama weighed in on it. Certain Republicans couldn’t run to the microphones fast enough to dispute what he said. Because - as we have all figured out by now - whatever Obama is for, they are against.
Now you have right-fucking-wingnuts coming out with the latest conspiracy; blaming the measles outbreak on the eee-legals. This is their latest talking point and I suspect that by the end of the week, the “liberal” media will run with this meme, repeating it as fact.
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Both MSNBC and its parent NBC are shitty elitist media operations which share the desires to and are much closer to the rest of Big Corporate Media in wanting to sneer at “the left”, liberals, progressives, and anything the remotely smacks of “socialiasm”. One single lesbian realist, one single liberal intellectual, one single blue-collar labor type, one ethnic minority protest organizer, and one Boston-born left-coast-minded media, do make up any sort of unified ‘lefty’ media mentality. Lauer and Todd are much closer to the center of the NBC group, and Morning Goe is clearly their preferred star QB.
They have a valid point in that many of the anti-vaxxers amongst the general public are left-of-center and probably vote Democratic, but no Democratic leader is dumb enough to jump on this bandwagon and try to milk some political benefit from it.
I hear that, repeatedly. Now - TELL US who exactly ARE these “left-of-center” anti-vaxxers?
And no, a former Playboy bunny/pictorial regular does not qualify, nor her one-time foreign-born comic whose junk got all excited around hers for a while.
And if @MLauer were an actual journalist, he’d object to the headline in the Times that described this as a “debate”. He’d have pitched a fit about the effing chryon above. But nah.
There is no debate about this, as hard as the fluffers like @Mlauer try to manufacture one.
If Chuck Todd were an actual journalist, he wouldn’t be hosting Meet The Press.
Also, NBC? “Obama, Christie, Hillary weigh in as cases spread” is about the slimiest of slimy chryons.
And the state with the highest percentage of vaccinated children, as well as a law
that allows no religious exemption to anti-vaxxers is…drumroll…MISSISSIPPI!
Still the most backward state in the country in most respects, but give them credit when they get something right.
Yes, there are frightened idiots who are liberal just as there are frightened, idiotic Republicans. The difference is that the idiot liberals aren’t in elected office from which they’re spouting their stupid and incredibly dangerous theories to the public.
Also, here’s the line with which Lauer took issue:
how to approach matters that have largely been settled among scientists but are not widely accepted by conservatives.
And here’s Todd’s stupid response:
There are pockets of liberal affluent American where parents don’t want their kids vaccinated.
See the difference? The NYT was talking about settled science not widely accepted by conservatives. Chuck Todd is talking about pockets, meaning small groups, of liberals who are anti-vaxxers. So, unless there is 100% agreement among base liberals, that’s pretty much the same as Republicans widely disagreeing? This is truly the worst of both-sideserism.
“The vaccination controversy is a twist on an old problem for the Republican Party: how to approach matters that have largely been settled among scientists but are not widely accepted by conservatives.”
If Matt’s problem was with that paragraph, I’m not entirely sure “… a twist on an old problem …” means what he thinks it does (maybe it doesn’t mean what I think it does). I thought the writer was making a reference to issues, such as denial of climate change, rather than intimating that the vaccination controversy was a GOP issue.
Matt has reading comprehension issues. The article is titled "MeaslesProves Delicate Issue to GOP Field" and these politics are exactly what we’ve been seeing unfold, the nuttys trying to reach their base and others who frame their responses on both sides of vax and no fax. Not a Democratic issue at all. The Rs need not only to continue to wash their hands, they need a brain bleach.
The politics of medicine, morality and free will have collided in an emotional debate over vaccines and the government’s place in requiring them, posing a challenge for Republicans who find themselves in the familiar but uncomfortable position of reconciling modern science with the skepticism of their core conservative voters.
Which means Lauer & Todd, in fact, do not have a point.
No Democratic politician is using rhetoric that could be read to encourage anti-vaxers. None. Whether or not some dumb-ass anti-vaxers also vote Democratic is very much off-point and has nothing to do with Democratic policy-making.
Does anybody recall that soft-hitting interview he had with Ray Rice and his abused partner Janay as they stood around the kitchen schmoozing… It was heartwarming, something out of Hallmark cards. Network news anchors are approaching the usefulness of appendixes.
Once is a costume, twice a life style…Matt should provide real insight during his Bruce Jenner interview. And, Todd is transitioning…to human (rim shot!!!)
