Discussion: Mandate Repeal Would Increase Uninsured, Destabilize Market Despite Promised GOP Fix

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I can never figure out if Senator Collins is clueless, evil, or just plain stupid. My bet is that it’s a combo platter…

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Mandate Repeal Would Increase Uninsured, Destabilize Market Despite Promised GOP Fix

Water is Wet.

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Still doesn’t change the fact that the GOP tax plan fucks over the middle and working classes to benefit the wealthy.

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“Promised GOP Fix”

Can anyone name a time a Rethugliklan fixed anything? (By “fix,” of course, I mean improve or make better.)

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While the GOP (lead by Trump) works to cleave more people from their health care - here is what PresidentPettyGrievance is toilet tweeting this am: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42166663 (bigoted anti Muslim videos from the far right in the UK)

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So the fate of the livelihoods of millions of Americans and whether or not we want to finally hammer the last nail into the coffin of the question as to whether or not we’re an oligarchy rests largely in the tiny hands of a Trump promise to support a couple of useless future fixes to a bill so full of shit and so potentially catastrophic that it even needs these massive fixes in the first place?

Wrap it up, America.

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Murry Alexander is designed to stabilize the markets as ACA exists NOW, not after the mandate is repealed.

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Just polished shite .

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Not only that, but the Republicans would actually have to pass said “fixes” in order for them tobe implemented.

Thought: If something will require passage of another bill to be “fixed,” don’t pass the original bill — because you’ll be passing a broken law.

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Collins insisted Tuesday that she secured support from Trump for two bills she says would mitigate the damage of repealing the mandate—

Problems:

  1. Collins believes a Trump promise.
  2. It’s a Trump promise to support 2 bills to prop up Obamacare, a law he wants to destroy and has been taking every step he can to gut.
  3. She takes it on faith that the health care props will be voted on, passed and signed before the tax bill, because she thinks there will be a conference committee on the tax bill.
  4. The health care props probably won’t be passed by the House, and see 1 and 2 if you think Trump would sign them.
  5. The bills are insufficient and will be ineffective to do what Collins claims, especially if the individual mandate is repealed, and she knows it.

So, yeah, Susan. Support the tax bill which is a piece of crap on its own even if it didn’t eliminate the mandate.

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If we were to put our anger and disgust at the Republicans aside for a moment and think about this question of what is “the problem” that the Republicans are trying to fix, you soon understand that that they

  1. Don’t think it’s a problem that US citizens have or don’t have health care.
  2. Don’t think it’s a problem that US citizens have to use bankruptcy to get from under medical debt.
  3. Don’t think it’s should be their job to make health care affordable, health insurance companies stable, and the heath care accessible to all US citizens.

Then your anger and disgust comes right back. Then fear and loathing come out to share the ride when you realize that the GOP tax plan only exacerbates EVERYTHING!

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Yep. 240 years–well, we had a good run. We are now just 300 + million individuals, not a country.

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The Dems can’t seem to show how insurance works. They need to make the analogy with car insurance. What would happen if people with cars who plan to never use their car insurance no longer were required to have liability insurance? Chaos. Same here.

In addition, anybody can get care in an emergency room. It’s not unreasonable to expect people to have to pay for making this privelege available.

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It makes zero sense with this gobbled together crap. Kick one of the legs of the stool out and then try and catch it before it falls with the person on it. Seems if you undo the main portion of the law in the first place than one should consider new options for health insurance in general.

This will be bad. The uninsured rate alone will spoke and in the long term premiums will rise. And they would need to actually pass these things. Conservatives will not want to help the law even in proxy and Dems would be opposed for the most part.

So, Trump can say what he wants. These things will not pass and we will be left in a world without supporting structure for the ACA. Meaning people will suffer.

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I’m getting tired of saying that I’m shocked! shocked!!

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People of Maine, if you really want to be protected from McConnell/Ryan/Trump you can do better than an occasionally moderate Republican who makes of show of helping you before folding. You can elect a Democrat.

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Why hasn’t the Senate already passed “Collins-Nelson” and “Alexander-Murray”?

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We need to see the prescription list of every member of congress! What’s she on??!!

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Shorter Collins: “Peace in our time.”

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