Discussion: Lisa Murkowski Backs Repealing Obamacare's Individual Mandate

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Well, it was nice while it lasted, Lisa. GOP is as GOP does. Same as it ever was.

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A lying, duplicitous, fraudster Republican. But I repeat myself.

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cave: verb: capitulate or submit under pressure; cave in

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Ah, yes, another patriotic Republican who doesn’t want to cramp the “freedom” of not having insurance until she gets sick. What a true American, Lisa! Why don’t you give up your tyranny of government insurance?

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“I believe in making sure that 13 million Americans lose health insurance and that premiums skyrocket for the rest - as long as corporation and the ultra-rich get tax cuts.”

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Let’s all, for a moment, reflect on what could actually be accomplished in this country if we had nationalized healthcare. The hours, the money … ugh, forget it. It’s too painful to contemplate.

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I don’t Twitter much and most have probably seen this but I really LOL’d:

Bill Kristol
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@BillKristol
The GOP tax bill’s bringing out my inner socialist. The sex scandals are bringing out my inner feminist. Donald Trump and Roy Moore are bringing out my inner liberal.
WHAT IS HAPPENING?
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Happy Holidays from Senator Murkowski: Higher premiums, loss of coverage, and screwed on taxes! Merry Christmas, suckers! Huzzah!

*EDIT: And may I add (I would be remiss not to do so) a very merry fuck you very much to all the BernieBros who voted for Trump. Fuck you very much, losers!

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What percentage of Alaskans are on Obamacare?

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Not a good development. She’s playing some kind of game here, but I like Senators who don’t play games.
Unfortunately, if Murkowski is wavering like this, I have to assume her vote on the final bill is ‘buyable’. I have to increase the chances of passage to 50%.

This bill is brittle though. It can break if ee need to turn our volume level up, but the sexual harassment stuff has eaten up too much of the news coverage. Starting to see some resistance for the first time today with the reaction to Murkowski’s decision. We need to turn it way up. In 2018, we’re gonna see a lot of middle class families, especially those who have ever received any tuition assistance have higher tax bills and higher health care costs. It’s a result that will cost the GOP the white vote in many states in this country, even ones they take for granted as red.

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Murkowski has caved, Collins has signaled her willingness to cave (in exchange for a few trinkets). McCain has congratulated the Senate on following “regular order” with the tax bill (not following regular order was his main complaint about their Obamacare repeal efforts).

Sure is starting to look a lot like we’re headed for Senate passage of the GOP tax bill, quite possibly with the repeal of the mandate included.

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This is not the worst thing about the bill, the entire bill is a fraud, a scam. It is NOT a tax cut. It is a tax HIKE for those who cannot afford it. It’s only a cut for those who need it the least. It is the Ebenezer Scrooge bill. Merry Christmas!

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Hey Lisa Murkowski - F$%K YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!

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It’s called being human, Bill. Um, congrats on discovering it?

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When you consider the chaos in the insurance markets that will result, it’s hard to believe that Reps would repeal the mandate while leaving the rest of the ACA in place. It’s only the long history of people in positions of power doing really stupid things that convinces me they’ll do it.

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I don’t know what motivates this—ideology, funding, constituent demands, or what. I’ve argued (ahem) I mean discussed this subject with neighborhood good 'ol boys who want to know why you have to get insurance; the idea offends them. I’ve explained that it’s how they keep the costs down, it’s how insurance works, basically, and it’s the only way if you want to keep it private. They didn’t seem persuaded. Anyway, the thing is, Republicans gonna Republican, even if they did something you like last month. Excuse me got to go scream at my own Republicans for a while.

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She’s relatively safe doing this. Her state collects NO taxes, sales or income, from it’s people. The loss of the state tax deduction will not be felt in Alaska. As far as “13 million people losing their healthcare” GOP’ers don’t give a damn nor do they have to. That’s not enough people to have much political impact and given that Americans were dumb enough to put GOP’ers in power across the land and watch them entrenched themselves…while sitting idly by…why should they care?

Dream on if you think this is going to hurt the GOP. It isn’t. It’s just going to hurt Americans that Congress doen’t give a shit about.

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I take it you asked how much money they’re saving from car and home-owner insurance as they are totally optional.

Oh, wait…

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Lucy finally showed up to yank the football away again

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Did Mitch throw her some goodies exclusive to Alaska?

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