Discussion: Leader Of GOP's House Hardliners: Still A 'Good Chance' Of Obamacare Repeal

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As long as Trump and Meadows see bringing the broken GOP as subjugating it to one person’s will, the fun carnage will continue lol

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Keep polishing this turd boys. I want it so shiny no one will mistake it for what it is.

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Republicans in the ā€œFreedomā€ caucus think the earth is flat, and that tossing people off of their health insurance will make them cheer, so I wouldn’t believe anything dopes like Meadows say, except to understand the complete opposite is far more likely.

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there’s a difference between possibility and probability…

a ā€˜good chance’ means a possibility…

reality says probability is unlikely

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Sounds like someone’s feeling the heat this morning, because after Ryan and Trump, you’d probably have to look at Meadows for this bill’s failure.

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Yes taking away healthcare from 24 million people was not ENOUGH. We need to take away all Americans healthcare. Only way Freedom caucus would be happy.

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Hurry up and fail again before the midterms…or better yet, succeed. GOPers don’t learn very well.

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They still don’t seem to understand that they are NOT the majority. The majority did not want it repealed.

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Well, the HFC does have a problem here. Nearly all of them were elected to office specifically on promises to repeal Obamacare ā€œroot and stemā€. And they just balked at what was painted to their voters, as the means to do that. That leaves them all vulnerable to the right (the only flank they care about due to their gerrymandered districts).

It gets worse, however, they guys like Meadows probably don’t realize it yet. The HFC is going to be quite full of themselves now. They brought Ryan to heel, (the only ā€œchangesā€ considered were aimed to woo the HFC), and are probably figuring they are the ones in charge now.

They aren’t.

They will however, want to spend even more cycles with even weaker bills…further to the right, and further away from Trump’s vague promises… to try and shore up those right flanks at home, but rest of the House…and in particular leadership, isn’t going to be at all interested.

My guess is, there is a pretty good chance that Dems will pull together their own bill/fix to Obamacare and have a talk with Trump about it. Even let him call it Trumpcare. Think along the lines of a public option. And they will be able to win over enough of the ā€œcoverage caucusā€ to get it passed. Ryan might even be spiteful enough towards the HFC, that in a fit of revenge, he actually puts it on the floor. (Remember if Dems do go down this path, Trump will be banging on Ryan’s head to do exactly that).

And then these HFC bozos will have REAL problems on their hands.

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I’m not interested in fixing things for Trump and putting his name on it.

IT can wait until we have the majority back. Working with Trump is a fool’s game.

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Get back to your own dirt-poor, opioid-riddled district, Meadows, and do some damn work for the people who elected you.

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Suck on it, ā€˜hardliner’

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I could go for a bill with Obama’s name in it:
ā€œReinforcing Obamacare For Lifeā€ act?

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Naming stuff is really more their speed.

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It’s all part of Republican ā€œlogicā€. To wit: We must do everything we can under the law to save the womb babies…unless it means requiring insurance companies to offer pre-natal care.

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Putting a name on a bill is meaningless from an actual policy POV. And while I would definitely be extremely wary of working with Trump on anything…there are some real potential political positives that would come from it.

Namely, the GOP would go nuts and probably start impeachment proceedings immediately.

So I am cool with a scenario that gets us a public option, bolsters ACA even more and gets Trump impeached. COMPLETELY cool with that.

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Not with this Congress.

Good heavens!

We’ll get the majority back and work on it but goddamn we just saved the ACA.

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