Discussion: Las Vegas Gunman's Secret Life Stymies Investigation

The Guardian Reports from the presser, with some titbits about the Sherif/FBI interaction…

Las Vegas sheriff: gunman planned to survive and may have had help
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/04/las-vegas-gunman-stephen-paddock-survive-police

Sheriff Joe Lovato appears to have ambitions…

Lombardo had previously said law enforcement believed Paddock had perpetrated “a solo act”. But on Wednesday, he appeared to change his position. His speculation about the possibility Paddock was aided came after an exchange in which he conceded investigators had not been able to identify any “person of interest” other than Danley.

He said investigators were, however, pressing to find others who may have been involved. It was possible that Paddock was “a super guy” who was “working out all of this on his own”, Lombardo said. But he added: “It would be hard for me to believe that.”

The comment appeared to earn a veiled rebuke from the agent overseeing the FBI’s investigation.

“Theories are great and everyone can have a theory,” said Aaron Rouse, who runs the bureau’s Las Vegas division, and took to the lectern immediately after the sheriff’s comments. “But I need to deal with facts. The sheriff needs to deal with facts.” He added: “He’s not going to make assumptions. I’m not going to make assumptions.”

I am waiting for Lovato to go full ‘False Flag’ soon, didn’t some nut job sheriff do that at Sandy Hook…?

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The problem is at the top.

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Senior congressional Republicans said Wednesday they were open to considering legislation banning “bump stocks” like Paddock used to convert semi-automatic rifles into fully automated weapons.

In related news, Congress plans to require the Titanic to have three additional life jackets.

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I figured this would happen:

The Slide Fire website on Wednesday said the device was out of stock “due to extreme high demands.

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All of us have a lot of private thoughts going on in our minds. Luckily most of them either aren’t this bad or don’t make it into reality.

Some “tit-bits?” Sounds painful.

OK; I remove the hyphen, thanks…

All those deaths make it all the more important to eliminate the “death tax.”

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My instinct is that we are going to find out he was running out of money and this was how he choose to end it.

Here is a very handy timeline: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-shooting-timeline-stephen-paddock-mandalay-bay/

This appears to have been meticulously planned and I’m not convinced he planned to escape. Maybe he did or maybe he just wanted that option.

Police got to the hall outside the room within 12 minutes of the first shot (remarkable!) which may have surprised Paddock and realizing he was surrounded, killed himself.

Even before the police arrived a security guard had gotten to the outside of the room and was shot and while wounded continued to assist police and guests escape, until the police directed him to seek medical attention. That’s a hero.

200 shots were fired in the hallway!

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I think a lot of this will be solved. They have the record of the gun purchases and should be able to run down at least some of the ammo purchases.

Paddock’s financial health will soon be known to investigators, if it’s not already. Marilou probably knows more than she’s willing to admit, but maybe they will get some more details from her.

My guess is the money was running out and he was going to be ‘exposed’ as not quite the expert gambler he held himself out to be. He suffered a break. Video poker.

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I have my suspicions about this shooter. My guess is that given how many guns he had and how long he had planned for such an attack, that it fits the description that we often accord to a terrorist except that we don’t know if there was a political motivation here. I would add that many such people who have that many guns often subscribe to right wing paranoia which is a manifestation of the political ideology of white nationalism. The NRA and the gun industry’s rhetoric are intended to market to such people based on an idea that liberty is at threat with thinly veiled references to a takeover of the country by POCs.

Given that he also seemed to have access to money, he may have also had big debts to pay as well, so there could be a personal angle to this. Another thing I would inquire is whether he was involved in the drug trade in any way.

Not according to this:

It took 72 minutes from the first 911 call for law enforcement to breach the shooter’s hotel room, NBC News reports.

Police received the first call reporting shots on the country music festival at 10:08 p.m. local time. They then began searching for the source of the shooting, which was eventually determined to be coming from the Mandalay Bay hotel. Police initially began searching for the shooter on the 29th floor, working their way up to the 32nd floor where authorities say they immediately realized they were in the right place. It’s unclear how they knew, but at 11:20 p.m., police were heard blasting the door off the room where gunman Stephen Paddock was found dead, according to Las Vegas law enforcement.

Yes, according to that. Read more closely please.

I wrote,

Police got to the hall outside the room within 12 minutes of the first shot

I did not write that they entered the room. The shots stopped at about the time of the intial arrival outside the room. It’s all explained in the link you shared as well as the link I shared.

The comments from lawmakers including the No. 2 Senate Republican, John Cornyn of Texas, marked a surprising departure from GOP lawmakers’ general antipathy to any kind of gun regulations.

No doubt some NRA fat cash will soon cure them of those delusions…

None of that explains why he would target a country-music festival. If he’s a right-wing terrorist, why would he do that? The only people who hate country music that much are Martians.

It seems he targeted and scoped different events, including lollapalooza. He also had a priority to blow up the aircraft fuel tanks that are at the end of McCarren airport which are directly across the street from Mandalay. He chose the target based on the efficacy of committing acts of violence at the end of the day. Recall that the OKC federal building attack was in OKC, not exactly a bastion of liberalism. The US version of white nationalism also incorporates a hostility towards the federal gov’t and to society in general.

The shooter’s brothers have said they saw no evidence of odd behavior.

One brother, Patrick, said he hadn’t seen the shooter in 20 years and that they were not communicating.

Eric Paddock called his 64-year-old multimillionaire brother a “private guy.”

“A private guy.”

Dysfunctional families, like this one with a father who was a bank robber on the FBI’s 10 Most Wanted list, frequently cannot recognize serious problems within their own family members or within themselves. It’s their “normal” and it feels normal to them.

So family statements claiming the shooter appeared normal are worthless.

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That is what will be interesting to watch. The NRA are very sophisticated in this game. After Sandy Hook, they laid low and wo$ked behind the scenes. They will here too.

Cornyn is the tell.

An enterprising young journalist should be watching to see how much money the NRA quietly raises off this tragedy.

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