Discussion: KS. Lawmakers Break Grover Norquist Anti-Tax Pledge With Budget Deal

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Yes, but instead of taxing the wealthy, they taxed the poor and set up another disaster for next year.

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Yup. It doesnā€™t really break the Pledge, because only those undeserving poor people pay the taxes, not Groverā€™s rich friends.

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Yes, in reality itā€™s a regressive tax win for them.

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That will show those shiftless poor and middle class people when they have to buy their frivolous bread and milk and clothing.

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This may be very tellingā€“either Norquist fulfills his threats, and takes them out (and everyone sees how the pledge screws up making public policy), or he does not (and everyone learns he is toothless.).

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So what youā€™re saying is, is he tough and ruthless or rough and toothless?

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Toothsome.

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And worse- itā€™s a tax that a lot of people, if they can afford the gas, can avoid, thus setting up even more economic disaster.

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Poor people (and the rest of us too) always have to pay for rich peopleā€™s mistakes. Because America and freedom and Jesus and stuff.

Also, Iā€™m sure Fox et al will carefully explain that the new taxes are totally the fault of Dems, who are always giving free Obama stuff to the blahs.

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Because only Democrats raise taxes. Why, I bet it was those Democrats who control the Kansas legislature that forced this on the Governor!

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Many of these far-right Kansas Republicans beat more moderate Republicans in a purge led by Brownback. And their central campaign pledge was basically no new taxes/cut the bloated bureaucracy.

Next election they will get a taste of their own medicine, I hope.

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The only binding pledge they have is to the Constitution and Bill of Rights-not to this asshat!

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with the passage of this tax, the suitable dramatic result should be either Norquist or Brownback suddenly starts screaming ā€œIā€™m meltingā€¦Iā€™m meltingā€ like when the water was thrown on the wicked witch!

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do you suppose that the rest of the Republicans, looking at you Pinhead Mitch and Boehner, will be able to learn from BrokeBacksā€™ experiment in trickle down?

or will they once again prove that ā€˜Learning Curves Are For Pussiesā€™

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Oh for godā€™s sake, stop it. Just stop it. Stop acting like thereā€™s a bipartisan reality based rainbow covered silver lining. This is really, really, really bad. Enormously bad They didnā€™t suddenly see the light, opening up the exciting new prospect of a reality based GOP entering into No-Labels compromises with liberals for the common good, free of the constraints of Grover Norquist.

Instead, they did exactly what the people who pay Norquist wanted them to do, exactly what Norquist and his patrons have been trying to do all along: they slashed government services, starting with public education and shifted to a system of financing the rump government with regressive taxes.

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No. They only broke the ā€œSpiritā€ of their ā€œcontract with the devilā€.
They stuck to the LETTER of the Grover Norquist contract by only raising taxes on the lower 99%.
Rich people donā€™t pay sales tax. They get their company/investment firm/stockholders to buy whatever they want FOR them (and then take a personal tax write-off of the full amount.)

I had a talk with some youngsters yesterday about Republicanism. I am so very sorry that we left them with this Evil, socioeconomically regressive system, which is both futuristic (Global Corporate Capitalistic Literally Without Borders) and traditional (buttressed by mostly geriatric Confederates and their sympathizers).

They have their work cut out for them. They are overworked, underrepresented at the Bargaining Table For The Workplace, underinformed-while-believing-they-ARE-informedā€¦and, lastly, just around the corner from Middle Age.

When things REALLY get rough.

Enjoy the gadgets and the diversions while you canā€¦

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Youā€™re right, a sale tax is regressive and targets people who spend money by necessity to get by lifeā€™s daily functions. A cigarette tax is a cheap way out by targeting people with bad habits. How about soda fountains, bottled soda, guns and ammunition? The latter would cause a revolution.

No politicians Right or Left should be signing pledges to any special interest group, especially when it comes to fiscal viability of the state.

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