Discussion: Kobach Using Spreadsheet Showing Five Non-Citizen Voters

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Wait, he hasnā€™t activated the magical migrant mathematical multiplier functionā€¦

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Five.

Fucking five.

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OMG, massive voter fraud in Kansas.

What a fricken waste of time and money. He should be sanctioned bigly by the Court.

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Blockhead, rises to national prominence among the GOP due to his devious schemes to deal legislatively with undocumented immigrants (pass such harsh laws that folks ā€˜self deportā€™), and how to restrict voting among legitimate voters by scape-goating undocumented immigrants into a voter fraud crisis.

Says a great deal about the vacuousy, lack of intellect, and/or belief that the only way to win elections is to cheat and a population to vilify in order to assure an us/they dichotomy to bond the ā€œusā€ to vote for ā€œusā€ out of fear.

I am so glad he is being made to look as empty, crooked, and legally vile as he really is. May his political shooting star status - crash deeply into the earth - like a cratered meteor.

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Those alleged non-citizen voters cast collectively about 10-12 votes, the earliest in 2004, testimony revealed. According to the challengers in the case, thatā€™s out of 1.3 million votes cast in the relevant time period in the county.

Unregistered voters voted 10 to 11 times in Wichita? Over fourteen years? 10 to 11 out of 1.3 million???

Holy shyte! This calls for drastic measures!

Sic 'em Kobach!!

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FIVE??? This has gone far enough!!! SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!!! The immigrant scourge must be stopped at all cost. How can we have honest, free, and fair elections when THOUSANDS of five people vote illegally in our elections?

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Thereā€™s fraud in Kansas but it has nothing to do with voters.

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Silliness and totally pathetic if he thinks this is grounds for the voter suppression heā€™s after.

Itā€™s also not evidence. Itā€™s probably been admitted solely as a ā€œchalk.ā€

https://definitions.uslegal.com/c/chalk/

He still needs to produce proof of what the spreadsheet shows.

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How many voters were struck by lightning while waiting in line over those 20 years? We might be missing a bigger problem here.

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And even if he manages to clear that hurdle, he has to convince the court that itā€™s ā€œsubstantial.ā€ Good luck with that.

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ā€œKobach Using Spreadsheet Showing Five Non-Citizen Votersā€

Thatā€™s IT? Thatā€™s the BIG voting scandal?

After years of touting this crap, Kobach finally gets his big chance, and produces THIS?

Good grief these people are goobers.

What a moron.

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Yeah, that whole ā€œfiveā€ thing doesnā€™t exactly ring with substance.

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Good god I am surprised the judge didnā€™t laugh hysterically while saying ā€œcase dismissed.ā€

I mean come on - for 5 bad votes you are going to fuck up everything for over 2 million people?

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If thatā€™s all heā€™s got heā€™s in serious ā€œrisk to benefitā€ trouble. I canā€™t imagine any Judge with a genuine desire to do whatā€™s best for the people would allow a law that has booted 1000ā€™s of legitimate voters to stand because it kept 2 dozen illegitimate ones out of the pols. Lets not kid ourselves. We know what Kobach is really up to. But if this is what he bases his case upon thereā€™s no onus on anyone to pretend anymore or give him the benefit of the doubt. There is no doubt.

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Does Kobach get extra pay for pursuing this or for representing Kansas in this case?

Could that be why he is doing it?
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ā€¦her office started collecting the data systematically in 2103ā€¦

Note to reporterā€¦ the date should be 2013 not 2103

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Soā€¦ What is it? Is it that they are, in fact, that unspeakably stupid? Can that be true? How do they dress themselves in the morning? They drive automobiles? Or is it just that they have convinced themselves that my fellow citizens are stupid enough to fail to detect how utterly bankrupt the argument is?

I honestly donā€™t understand.

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Thirty eight cases of immigrants registering prematurely, 5 of which lead to an attempted vote. That isnā€™t substantial by any stretch of the imagination.

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I donā€™t think the judge is going to be too impressed that the election commissioner stalked immigrants at their naturalization ceremonies.
And the fact that a few newly naturalized citizens were surprised to find out that theyā€™d been registered to vote previously (but had never voted) suggests that the election commissioner should devote more resources to getting their data entry people to understand what it means when a non-voter doesnā€™t tick the ā€œIā€™m a U.S. Citizenā€ box on their DMV registration.
Anecdotally, it looks like the DMV ā€œmotor-voterā€ effort is mostly effective, i.e. no one was using it to vote illegally, and it makes it quite simple to register to vote. Itā€™s not the DMV applicantā€™s fault if they didnā€™t claim to be a citizen and still ended up registered (in what amounts to 3 or 4 cases among millions).

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