Discussion: Klobuchar: McCain Recited 'Names Of Dictators' During Trump Inaugural Speech

I don’t know whether it’s because Dems have been in minority for too long or what, they seem to be very easily grateful to GOPers, but always get nothing in return. Remember when Dems praised Jeff Flake during Brat’s hearings? I don’t see why and I don’t believe rethugs would do the same in similar situations. I don’t have a clear memory of things before 2016 though, so it’s kinda hard for me to think from a historical perspective.

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OT, but oh so lovely.

“Sassy” is so much more than just a horse belonging to a pedophile Alabama politician!

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That is a very annoying press habit, haven’t seen in the AP Style Guide (but I’m sure it’s there) where saying one correct thing or voting one correct way on one occasion leads to a lifetime label of being a maverick, centrist, putting the institution and country above party, etc.

And also curiously only applicable when the person is a Republican. Never applies to a Democrat who crosses the aisle, they’re just spineless and weak.

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They’ve been doing it for eons. We’d have had a public option as part of Obamacare, for example, except that we negotiated it away to gain Republican support… Leading to exactly 0 fucking republican votes.

We’re like the dog which keeps going back whining to its master no matter how many times they kick us…

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It is pretty amazing that the deified Saint John of McCain couldn’t use his omnipotence to answer the question of how many houses he owned.

And the next time someone says to me about what a “maverick” he was and what an honorable man he was, I’ll say the three words that I wish were chiseled on his headstone:

SAVINGS. AND. LOAN

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She should be able to make that point without relying on McCain for credibility. It also carries no weight, if she can’t back it up with someone else hearing the comment. If you’re going to claim something like that, you need backup.

Also… I don’t think she realizes how many of us loathed McCain, for very good reasons.Or else she does realize it, and doesn’t care because she’s aiming for the “centrist + female” slot in the primary. She’ll have to fight Gillibrand for that one.

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I guess Klobucher is trying to establish her bipartisan bonafides in an era of hyperpartisanship.

Dems were never fans of McCain and most Republicans in the Trump era had written him off as well. So I guess she’s going for that narrow sliver of “never-Trumpers”?

An enemy attack, abetted by Donald Trump and international organized crime.

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I thought that was Mittens.

Regardless …

Fuck Sid McCrashcup!

And his lipstick-on-a-pig memory. And Meghan too, for that matter.

BTW Have the war criminals been pardoned yet?

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I think it’s sorta like the man bites dog situation. The media doesn’t really notice you until you do or say something against the grain. And while McCain and Collins -when push came to shove -rarely bucked the party line, they were clever in appearing independent. And the media ate it up.

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Sarah Palin aside. She was monumental in setting the stage for the decimation of the office of the Presidency of the US. Without her, there would be no Mr. T rumpp. I realize the same could be said for a number of other GOP stalwarts, but in her case, she championed the Tea Party, and that carried the law and order traditions of the US government into a by-gone era. John McCain can never live (in memory) her choice of VP down.

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What’s interesting about Klobuchar is that when a person declares they’re running as a candidate for President, I thought it was Wikipedia’s policy now to lock down their page so no one can tamper with it, vandalize the page or add lies and propaganda shit willy-nilly as they’ve been known to do over the years.

They haven’t locked the pages for Klobuchar, nor have they done so for Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, Steve Bullock, Julian Castro, John Delaney (whoever the fuck that is), Tulsi Gabbard, Kirsten Gillibrand, Hickenlooper, Inslee, and Swalwell.

They have done so for some level of protection on pages for Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, Corey Booker, Bill de Blasio, and Andrew Yang (another one I know nothing about) however. It seems kinda inconsistent at this point. Maybe candidates have to request it?

There are also about 3 or 4 other candidates not worth mentioning, though I thought it was funny to see Mike Gravel in the mix and running again. He’s so weird. I thought that guy died.

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This is great news for Pol Pot.

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There was never going to be a single Republican vote evah for the ACA.
We were negotiating to get Democrats and Lieberman on board when we gave up on the public option.

On the day the country mourned the death of health reform giant Ted Kennedy, Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) said that there are very few circumstances under which she could support a public option.

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) says he’s a no.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/who-are-the-13-senate-democrats-holding-out-on-the-public-option

At the end of the negotiations, Blanche Lincoln was the single last holdout and would not vote for the ACA until it was dropped. We can blame Republicans for a lot of things, but not the loss of the public option.

Added: There are articles that explain Blanche’s role in killing it, but I thought I’d use a TPM article instead. Google it.

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Unfortunately I think big tech (Facebook, Amazon, Google, etc) are going to have disproportionate influence in all future elections unless we come to grips with what’s going on and take a measure of control of these entities, at least in so far as the electoral process.

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I hope the Democratic Party, and the nation as a whole, have learned something from that mistake.

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You know if McCain was alive today, he’d be a fierce advocate of Bolton’s war with Iran. I don’t remember a war he wasn’t predisposed towards.

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Maybe a good strategy in the general election, not so much in the Dem primary. At least I hope so. If we select a candidate who wants to get along with Republicans, we’re doomed.

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Saint Ronnie would be considered treasonous in today’s GOP.

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He could have stood up to the scumbags who swifboated his friend John Kerry.

Nope.

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