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This pilgrim has overstayed her welcome here in the USA. Maybe Putin could take her back to Russia with him and get her a job in a salt mine.
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Recently, Kim Davis said she would lose her “voice” if she just quit her job. Translation: I’ll lose my soapbox. Rawstory reported that at least one legislator in Kentucky is saying:
“It may be time to look at whether county clerks are worth the time and money,” Two other Kentucky county clerks have said they would refuse to follow the law on religious grounds, but they have apparently not yet been asked to issue a marriage license to a same-sex couples.
One of those clerks, Casey Davis of Casey County, has asked Beshear or the legislature to authorize the setup of a website that would issue all marriage licenses in the state.
But Keene said that would cost taxpayers money to set up and maintain, and the resulting discussion could open a debate over whether elected clerks were needed in each county.
He compared clerks to jailers, another elected office that has been questioned as essential.
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So my right to free speech means I believe I can yell fire in a theater. And if Davis get trampled in the mayhem, then obviously she shouldn’t have gone to the movies. Not my problem.
She may wannabe, but Anita Bryant she ain’t.
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OK. I am going to try this once more…
“The day the Supreme Court effectively legalized gay marriage in June, Beshear sent a letter to the state’s 120 county clerks directing them to issue licenses.”
The Supreme Court did not LEGALIZE GAY MARRIAGE. They ruled that discriminating against same sex couples trying to acquire a marriage license, was unconstitutional. It’s that simple. Please report it correctly.
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Bad lawyering. There is no good faith argument for an extension of the law which would entitle Gov. Beshear to alter Kentucky law without the aid of the legislature and he has an existing duty to see that the laws of Kentucky (which includes following U.S. Supreme Court decisions) are faithfully executed. The claim that each clerk has a greater right than the Governor as to the interpretation and enforcement of Kentucky law is also ridiculous. So the complaints about his initial directive are unfounded and the resulting pleading is vexatious. This portion of her complaint is vexatious and subject to Rule 11 sanctions. More particularly since it is transparently being offered for political purposes.
There is, however, a good faith argument as to whether a Governor could be required to use his existing power to call the Legislature into special session when faced with a legal situation which would otherwise violate a constitutional right. Kim’s claim that her constitutional right to freedom of religion is violated is incorrect since what she is complaining about is that she is being required to certify that the license applicant meets the state’s requirements for marriage which is true (and says nothing about whether the state is correct in the requirements it chooses) and also interferes with the religious freedoms of others in favor of her own views. Essentially she is trying to establish her own brand of religion in the office she runs. Despite the fact that her claim is wrong it is held in good faith and arguing as to what follows from alleged wrong is legally appropriate.
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“Davis’ lawyers with the Liberty Counsel, a firm that opposes gay rights, wrote Thursday that warning was “ominous” and suggested that Beshear’s directive for clerks to abide by the Supreme Court’s decision forced Davis to defy the court and wind up in jail.”
So, it’s all the gov’s fault for telling state employees to follow the law. Got it.
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Kim got a taste of public attention and found she really likes it, the law be damned.
Hey, Kim, has anyone explained the law of unintended consequences?
To quote that great statesman, Gov. William J. LePetomane, “We’ve gotta protect our phony-baloney jobs!!”
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Fox: Why do this Democrat clerk love big government, throws tantrum and not follow the law?
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Agree. Interesting is the fact that we haven’t heard from any other county clerk in other counties on how they have come to grips with the SC ruling. In fact, since no other clerks apparently have violated the Governor’s order or have quit in protest, it’s an example the judge could use for Davis’ accommodation. Perhaps this isn’t a strong legal position yet, given the governor’s rejection of the latest claim, she’s either out of all options or darned close to it.
I do hope the judge slams her big butt back in jail. Based upon reports of Republican national and state politicians rejecting her pleas, I suspect that her support will dwindle away. Can’t imagine that many Republican legislators would actually want their names attached to a bill supporting her views as that would complicate an awful lot of laws down the road and be followed by protests by others claiming some sort of victimization. Instead, they rather let the courts handle it exclusively.
I disagree. If the Supreme Court ruled that it was illegal to have an abortion if the fetus was one week old, wouldn’t it be accurate to say that it “effectively” outlawed abortion? The writer did not say they legalized gay marriage, they said they effectively legalized gay marriage.
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A post of mine here from Sept 1st. Davis will milk this for years. Mark it.
Seemingly nothing in the law is ever settled, and every time I hear a person has run out of avenues for relief there is yet another filing. Amended filings. Filings on different grounds. Court shopping, judge shopping, some new novel writ or claim resulting in another round of appeals through a dozens layers of the judiciary. Everyone is writing and saying SCOTUS has put this to bed and she’s out of options. Oh really? In the United States you’re seemingly never out of options, and nothing gets put to rest for good.
SCOTUS can pronounce a second, third and fourth time Davis is wrong, done, finished, out of options. And some lower court will still take her next appeal under consideration. For yet another dismissal. Rinse and repeat until hell freezes over.
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When will these lawyers suffer some professional censure for continuing to file suits that have zero merit, simply to clog the court system?
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That sounds like one of those real slick legal moves. The kind bottom tier attorneys come up with. Bunning is Bush appointee so we know about him. This mighty fine woman’s fate is in that GOP’er Judges hands. So, with a keen legal eye, that dip shit attorney of hers masterminds a plan to avoid calling the Judge an asshole ( as they’ve been doing for months ) and blame it on a Democrat because that always works.
I couldn’t get through 10 minutes of a Dumb and Dumber movie and I think pretty soon I’m going to the parking lot on this crap too.
lol @ “Pilgrim” her appearance and style of dress is sort of 1600’s
Let’s see 120 counties x $80,000 = $9.600.000 each and every year… in my 45+ years in IT that would make for a very very very fine application. KY, I’ll take the job at 1/4 that rate and retire for a 4th time a very very very very very rich man.