Discussion: Kickin' And Screamin': Birth Control Foes Resist SCOTUS On Obamacare

ā€œTake our rights away, please!ā€

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With all due respect to the sisters, if you don’t play the game you don’t make the rules.

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So we have the Supreme Court weighing how women acquire birth control. I wonder if our Founders thought the Court would be reduced to crap like that ?

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Hey sister zealots…stay out of my vagina! Mine your own!!

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They are playing by the rules of their game. Which is to dictates to you how you must live. I’m still clueless as to why you have a right to tell me what I do in my private life just because I work for you. And if the women are to buy ā€œcontraceptive onlyā€ policies, which do not exist, what are they to do it with? I suppose the money they get as pay from the phony baloney religious authoritarians and that’s OK. I Can use my Hobby Lobby paycheck to buy BC?

What can’t that fucking Court call a a spade a spade? This is aggressive evangelicalism with the Court being asked to mandate as law for us all the religious preferences of a few old biddies. That’s what it is.

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I, personally, have had enough. These virginal old crones do not ā€˜need’ birth control. I don’t give a sweet sht if it is ā€˜against’ their religion. Get your bony asses out of the Supreme Court, stop taking tax shelters, stop operating as a business, go back to the Church and do all the ā€˜jobs’ yourselves. Take it back to whatever YEAR of the Lord you want but get out of modern day vaginas. NOW!

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Didn’t a majority of the states have a contraception mandate religiously affiliated corporations had to follow before PPACA?

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Yeah, it sure seems like the court is taking on legislative responsibilities. Kind of reminds me of how they stepped in and turned over perfectly constitutional legislation on voting rights.

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They also said that they would prefer that the insurer not even inform the employees that they would need to get coverage through a separate program, lest it give ā€œthe appearance that the coverage is available only as a result of the employment relationship with the employer.ā€

Except that’s exactly why women that work for these non-profits are being denied birth control, and would end up with coverage provided by the gov’t or insurer outside of the original plan offered in some kind of tacked-on form. There should be some truth in advertising here, don’t you think? If it weren’t for these obstinate religious non-profits, these women would have easily already gotten the coverage for birth control otherwise. Its because these nuns (who willfully know nothing of family planning, giving birth, and lord knows, comprehensive female reproductive care for example) that every other woman that works for them has to suffer from their narrow-mindedness. I can tell you one thing, they aren’t going to get birth control coverage on a wing and a prayer, no matter the ridiculousness of these nuns’ proposals. Anything to stop women from getting birth control seems to be there only objective.

And btw, there is no separate birth control coverage by insurers. That’s not how health insurance works Sisters. If they’re telling the insurance markets how to operate, I think they crossed the line there as well.

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or how they overturned and perfectly good election when it looked like the person with the most votes might win and stuck us with… ah… you know…

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Boo Hoo Hoo, I’ll be condemning myself to everlasting punishment if I sign and date a form letter…

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ā€œThe challengers, which include the Little Sisters of the Poor religious order, say that even formally stating their objection is a burden on their faithā€¦ā€

I’ll just stop you right there and call bullsh*t.

A ā€œburdenā€ is when millions of American women are denied healthcare to which they’re legally entitled.
A ā€œburdenā€ is when women are denied the means to avoid crisis pregnancies.
A ā€œburdenā€ is when unplanned births drive struggling families into poverty.
A ā€œburdenā€ is when women are denied control of their own bodies and medical choices.

Signing a piece of paper does not constitute a ā€œburdenā€.

One would think an order of women pledged to address poverty could grasp this.

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The challengers advised the Court that the only acceptable workaround is to use this case as the mechanism to overturn Griswold v Connecticut which has been responsible for the murder of countless billions of unfertilized eggs.

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We can’t, so we’re going to make it damn hard for you!

People who don’t need birth control should shut up about it.

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The founders would have been like, ā€œBirth control? What? You mean it’s just a little pill that the woman takes? AWESOME!! We’re definitely going to need to get some of that to give to our slaves that we’re fucking on the side!ā€

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Pope Francis has given dispensation on birth control to some nuns who are stationed in a very dangerous part of, I think, South America. His reasoning is that rape is so prevalent and the nuns are targets. I guess he thinks it would be too much for them to go through a pregnancy and birth, since they can’t have abortions. But it is alright for other Catholic women to go through this torture.

Edit: and let’s not forget the the fact that a very large percentage of Catholic women and couples use contraception all the time. Remember when all Catholic families had 6, 8, 10 kids unless some had died young?

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Not true, I personally know 3 nuns who have had children. One left and married the priest father, the other two stayed and are still considered productive and welcome members of their orders. The kids were placed into a home and forgotten about. I know one woman who wanted to foster them and was told no the kids were not eligible for fostering.

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like a thousand times. . .

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He also gave recent dispensation for those women trying to avoid pregnancy while the Zika virus is raging in Central and S. America I believe too. So apparently its a principle that can be fudged when the need presents itself.

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