I think he can be faulted here for going down that particular rathole on this particular issue. There are many ways he can get this point across, but for him, this is perhaps the worst possible choice.
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I was going to respond, but it looks like @lestatdelc covered that pretty well. My only other point would be that Kerryâs vote (and his reasons behind his vote) are irrelevant to his criticism of Netanyahuâs rhetoric.
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If Kerry can be faulted itâs for buying what Bibi Netanyahu was selling.
âWhen the President of the United States looks at you and tells you something, there should be some trust.â ~ John Kerry - 2004
The same could be said about the Prime Minister of Israel.
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âTo jaw-jaw is always better than to war-war.â â Winston Churchill
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Well, Netanyahu has been claiming since 1992 that Iran will have nuclear bombs within six months or so. How can anyone take this man seriously?
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Yeah, funny how the party that claims Churchill as one of their icons seems to have real contempt for that sentiment.
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Of course, the most significant action taken under the umbrella of the so-called Iraqi Liberation Act was Operation Desert Fox, a four day campaign of bombing Iraq whose sole intent was to force the House to conduct its impeachment of Clinton while he was actively engaged as commander in chief. It was an unbelievably cynical, bullshit move, and had no more to do with âliberatingâ Iraq than the Iraq War.
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Follow the Money.
Bibi and his sycophants make MONEY off of continued conflict with EVERYBODY and on top of that he is DESPERATE to avoid the fate of the former President of Israel, Moshe Katsav, To do so Bibi MUST remain in power as that way no investigations of him can begin while he controls the levers of power in Israel.
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I would also add, that Kerry bought into the the âwe need the AUMF to get inspectors inâ line of argument (which I think was a mistake, but one that can be arrived at honestly) and felt betrayed for it, which in turn lead to his infamous âI was for it, before I was against itâ statement.
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Live by the Friedman unit, die by the Friedman unit.
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I guess what Kerry is saying is âfool me once, shame on me, fool me twiceâŚwonât get fooled again.â
At least he admits he was wrong to listen to both Shrub and Netanyahoo on Iraq. Netanyahoo wonât ever admit heâs wrong about anything. His fecklessly adamant bomb Iran position is shrill, tiresome, and will only stop when Iran has been nuked, and Netanyahoo wants the GOP to do his dirty work. Heâs interfering in U.S. foreign policy, and has forfeited a seat at the table by going around the POTUSâ back scheduling this speech. He deserves nothing and should get a heaping helping of it.
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And good on Ann Curry. She is a real journalist and has proved she has some stones unlike OâReillly
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sure, letâs guarantee a minority has a lock on political power. it worked so well in south africa.
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Yes there was. Itâs not the business of the US to âtake outâ leaders of other countries because they are oppressive dictators. There are literally dozens of those throughout the world; which ones get âtaken outâ and which ones get tolerated? I see a right, even an obligation to step in and stop a genocide, like in Rwanda or Bosnia, but there was no ongoing slaughter in Iraq in 2002. There might have been a case in 1991, when Saddam was gassing the Kurds and the Shiites, but 10 years later the matter loses its urgency. And why do Sunnis have a right to rule Iraq, when the y make up 205 of the population?
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Kerry is not lying here the c-span video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpQdg4D78Jc
And yes, he voted for the Iraq war but he learm from that costly mistake. Their and saying (that Bush FU)
âFool me once, shame on you, fool make twice shame on me.â Only a fool wonât learm from his/her mistake and Netanyahu is America mistake. U.S. lost 4,968 American soldiers + $$$ BILLIONS. While Netanyahu set on the side line, which not ONE Israeli soldier lives was lost, not a $$$ dime was spent to help in Iraq or Afghanistan.
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The bottom line is that Israel, or any foreign country for that matter, must not dictate our foreign policy. If Netanyahu doesnât like that, too bad.
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How come Robert Byrd and Ted Kennedy knew that Resolution was TOTAL Bullshit? Byrd gave the best speech of his career on the Senate Floor, went on and on about how there was not even a DISCUSSION about it right before the vote. He said âyou could hear a pin dropâ because no one was even discussing the ramifications of the vote. Thatâs because they wanted AIPAC and Oil money. Byrd was laughed at by people like Kerry, who was interested in his career only. Kennedy said he thought the war was âhatched in Texasâ. THEY knew. But John Kerry didnât? Bullshit. He knew DAMN well what was happening, but he was afraid it would go well and he would be cast as anti-war in 2004.
John Kerryâs actual words. Plenty of quotes here. He was completely full of it,
In fact, during a Democratic presidential debate on May 3, two days after Bush prematurely declared âmission accomplished,â Kerry said: âI think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein, and when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him.â
See, when things were going well, it was âsee how smart I was to vote for it?â
But Kerry also said that the burden to avoid war was on the Iraqi leader: âSaddam Hussein has a choice: He can continue to defy the international community, or he can fulfill his longstanding obligations to disarm. He is the person who has brought the world to this brink of confrontation.â
No, Saddam did not do that. He had paperwork issues, thatâs all. WE have 1,000 times more unaccounted for WMD than Saddam ever did. And his old WMD that we gave him were all expired anyway.
Kerry also said this:
âIt appears that with the deadline for exile come and gone, Saddam Hussein has chosen to make military force the ultimate weapons inspections enforcement mechanism,â Kerry said. âIf so, the only exit strategy is victory. This is our common mission and the worldâs cause. Weâre in this together. We want to complete the mission while safeguarding our troops, avoiding innocent civilian casualties, disarming Saddam Hussein, and engaging the community of nations to rebuild Iraq,â he said.
So Kerry said SADDAM chose to go to war. What???
If that war went well Kerry NEVER would have said it was a bad idea. The guy is s self serving pompous ass and EASILY Obamaâs worst appointment. He reminds me of Romney, tailors what he says depending on the audience. Oh, heâs much better than Mitt since he is a Democrat, no doubt. But heâs still a jive ass. He was a senior member of the Senate and had a lot of influence. He used to to PUSH the war, not stop it. Only Byrd and Kennedy were prominent guys in the Senate fighting to stop that absurd war.
Cherry picked intel by Mr. Cheneyâs very own security organ.
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IT was nearly 15 years ago.
It has no bearing on the current subject at hand.
Let it goâand keep your purity bullshit to yourself.
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If it was nearly 15 years ago, then technically you canât use it to fault BB either by that rationale. I criticize BOTH of them.
5,000 soldiers dying, hundreds of thousands of Iraqiâs dead or displaced, our economy decimated,âŚthat goes beyond a little purity. Itâs not like he was anti-gay marriage and then changed his position. I could deal with that no problem. This was the biggest blunder in US history.
Should I also ignore the Bush Adminâs incompetence on 9/11 because it was 15 years ago? No, not a chance.
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