Discussion: Kentucky Clerk Seeks Yet Another Delay In Issuing Same Sex Marriage Licenses

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Lock her ass up already.

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Sorry. No means no.

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Maybe she needs more time because she is busy filing for another divorce.

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shes already lost. and she will never win.
I agree- just throw her in jail.
she can really do some mentoring to female prisoners now.

and seriously 80k in KY for a clerk? that sounds just so weird

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One of my posts on this from another day:

Seemingly nothing in the law is ever settled, and every time I hear a person has run out of avenues for relief there is yet another filing. Amended filings. Filings on different grounds. Court shopping, judge shopping, some new novel writ or claim resulting in another round of appeals through a dozens layers of the judiciary. Everyone is writing and saying SCOTUS has put this to bed and she’s out of options. Oh really? In the United States you’re seemingly never out of options, and nothing gets put to rest for good.

She'll never issue a LGBT marriage license. She, her lawyers and the judicial system will combine to drag this out for months, or years.
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Denial, then Anger. We’ve now reached Bargaining.

It’s like dealing with a 4-year-old who wants to stay up past her bedtime.

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i hope youre wrong.
if it were some other person- maybe. all people are talking about now is how many marriages shes had.

im thinking and hoping thursday will see the beginning of the end for this

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No, some court, or judge, or SCOTUS jurist, will detect and acknowledge merit in this new filing. Therefore, once acknowledged it will be permitted to run the gamut of reviews, denial, and resulting appeals and elevations to higher tiers of review by superior courts. Mark it down.

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Can’t she appeal from jail?

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Yep, lock her up… an example needs to be made so these clowns will respect the rule of law. If she gets off with only a fine some conservative group will just pay it for her and she’ll keep stonewalling indefinately.

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For Gods sake, NO STAY! The court erred in issuing its previous stay. Stays during appeal are to preserve the legal status quo (a “first, do no harm” approach, if you will) when a ruling envisions new legal directions and precedents. Previous stays following same-sex marriage cases were justified because SCOTUS had not yet decisively ruled on the issue. That all changed after Obergefell. The legal status quo since June is the reverse. Bunning should have treated their previous request for stay as a TRO, requiring the burden of proof to lie with Davis (“Unlikely to prevail, you cow!”). In my opinion…

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Ain’t gonna happen and she’ll just piss judge Bunning off.

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She’s in deep sh*t, but she just knows that if she digs long enough, she’ll find a pony in there somewhere.

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The Court should deny this request but it shouldn’t jail her. Jailing her or imposing a stiff fine won’t really impact her as the right wing will either make her a cause celeb or just give her money to pay any fine plus extra to make her a hero. No, as another poster to this issue suggested, the Court should issue an injection ordering her to stay away from the Clerk’s office and order her not to perform any of her duties until such time as she decides to comply, with authority to the US Marshals to arrest her for appearing on the property. Then issue a companion order, ordering all the remaining clerks to issue licenses consistent with existing law.

Remove her from office by court order. That removes her little platform and takes the wind out of her sails.

EDIT: Let me clarify my point. I know that the Court cannot remover her from her elected position. What I’m suggesting is that the Court enjoin her from going to the the physical location of the Clerk’s Office. She can retain her title and salary. What she cannot do it set foot in the Clerk’s office. Bar her from physically entering into the office by Court order.

FINAL EDIT: Ok, I give. I reviewed 18 USC 401 and it’s clear that my suggestion is beyond the Court’s authority on a contempt finding.

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Mmm… I don’t think so. Divorce settlements can go through endless rounds of appeals. Death penalty cases can go through endless rounds of appeals. But judges seem to bring things to a quicker resolution when contempt of court is involved.

We’ll find out tomorrow just how much it’s going to cost her, but I’ll bet she’ll be looking at $1,000 per day. And her conservative supporters aren’t going to pony up for more than a week of that. I predict she’ll either quit her job or issue a same-sex marriage license by mid-September (and possibly much sooner).

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Jail. NOW. And I do mean NOW, g*ddamit!!!

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By that time, the actuarial tables will kick in, and she, as well as those who seek licenses form her, will die of old age.

Its seems this woman and her attorney are not great thinkers. The attorney has counciled his client to break the law and violate a court order. That’s pretty fucking stupid. And the clerk persists in holding a job, taking pay but refusing to do the work. I get her religious shtick but she must know she cannot win. And in the end she’s going to ruin the “religious objection” scam for all the other bigots that want to employ it. She’s not privately employed. She has to do this job or quit. And quit has always been an option.

How can she not know that in the end she’s just going to get burned and NO ONE is going to care.

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Is Orly Taitz on her legal team? Looks like she could use a good lawyer/dentist…

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