Discussion: Keith Ellison Denies Abuse Allegations From Ex-Girlfriend

Franken for President.

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Of course you do.

Out of time-out. Swell.

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Soon its going to be big news when a powerful man is shown never to have abused any woman.

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ā€œWeā€™re either going to become a socialist, Marxist country like western Europe, or weā€™re going to be free. As far as me and my family and my guns, Iā€™m going to be free.ā€
ā€“ ALEC, the conservative movement

Iā€™m fine with western Europe. Frankly, Iā€™d rather have their health care, and lack of national interest in cornering the international weapons market.

Iā€™m not fine with living under ALECā€™s definition of the way things should be.

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NickDanger: Do you have trouble believing claims of abuse, even when there is video evidence?

LosAmigos:It could be that they used a video cam to record sex sometimes and it happened to still be on. Or that this violence was part of an S&M game.

The only real freedom anyone has anymore is the freedom to masturbate, so go fuck yourself.

:slight_smile:

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Just wondering: Who would be present to make such a video?

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The reference (I assume) was to Ray Rice and the elevator video. Otherwise, a perfectly sensible question.

Trump lost Minnesota by only 1.5%. His party has announced Minnesota is a target. The GOP/GRU has sent both Comrades Trump and Pence to Duluth in recent weeks & Pence to Minneapolis. Now, there are BIG, LAST-MINUTE pre-primary SCANDALS about leading DFL (Dem.-Farmer-Labor) candidates for Attorney General (Ellison) and Governor (current Atty. General Lori Swanson).

The allegations about Ellison are years old. There are claims of video that doesnā€™t seem to exist. And the texts were examined by MInn. Public Radio & found to contain NO hint of physical threats or abuse, and simply reflected the issues confronted by a couple parting ways.

In the Governorā€™s race, Lori Swanson is accused, years ago, of assigning staffers to do political work while paid by the public. For example, an Atty. Olsen claims she was assigned to do legal research on ā€œhealthcareā€ and ā€œgasoline pricesā€, while working for Ms. Swanson in the A.G. office.

Like there was no possible legitimate public purpose for researching those issues!

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Well, MN is on a knife edge as to which way it will go. In 2016, Rs won 6 state senate seats to take over the Senate. They controlled the Senate and House until Tina Smith was appointed to the Franken seat. That pulled the Speaker of the house Ā® into the VGov position, and had the potential to flip the House. So there is a lot going on with slim margins.

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This smells like hatchet job from the son of a jilted lover.

Itā€™s the timing. It reeks.

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ā€¦ with the video recording app running. Happens all the time :wink:

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Of course the frequency of claims of abuse by ex-spouses is very high: Itā€™s frequently the reason they became ex- spouses in the first place!

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ā€œa computer left onā€¦
ā€¦ with the video recording app running. Happens all the timeā€¦ā€

ā€“> Especially if you rely on Kaspersky internet security software!

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Well, if he had a problem with her writing about their ā€œjourney,ā€ it seems unlikely that heā€™d consent to videotaping sex. But what do I know? Apparently, some people are willing to do things that I would never consider okay.

Congratulations. I guess you were on the road a lot.

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Huh?

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ā€œIn Russia, computer reboot YOU!ā€

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Fairly frequently when a son hits puberty he will drive an abusive partner of his motherā€™s out of the family whether they are related or not.

Bill Clinton and his stepfather illustrate the dynamic:

Though Bill loved his stepfather, Rogerā€™s alcoholism and subsequent abuse of his mother would lead to Billā€™s intervening on numerous occasions with physical force, each time resulting in his stepfatherā€™s arrest.[9]

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