Discussion: Kavanaugh's Yale Suitemate Joins Chorus Of Witnesses Stonewalled By FBI

Yeah, it obviously wouldn’t have helped the whitewash if the FBI permission to actually talk to witnesses that weren’t preapproved by the GOP. Jesus, my stomach is already turning and it’s not even 8am yet.

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One of the toughest spiritual tests of today is reading all these crimes against We The People of the USA, folks like you and me, and maintaining a peaceful happy demeanor. It’s a real challenge to the spirit and soul of any normal human, which excludes 98% of government officials in the USA.

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Well, Appold can’t really corroborate Deborah Ramirez’s account. All he can say is that someone told him that the encounter had happened, soon after it is said to have taken place. That’s far from evidence that would be acceptable in court. Of course, this is not a trial and the rules of evidence do not apply but they are a good guide to relevance, and we should not stray too far from them just because we want a certain result.

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I would like to assume that the FBI stonewalling is actually a GOP stonewall, although problematically may be that is the same thing now.

And, I am not surprised that conservatives would have a backlash to cultural change such as something like the #MeToo movement, which I believe the stonewalling encapsulates.

However, sea changes in culture are not stopped by conservative backlashes. And the basic injustice here has such clarity that this will more likely to further drive the #MeToo movement. We live in interesting times.

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This investigation is a cover to get Kavanaugh in. Facts really have no consequences at this point. In fact, this is likely to drive up Republican’s popularity. It wouldnt matter even if Kavanaugh had raped someone.

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But it fits the common meaning of “corroborate” if not the legal one, certainly, like any contemporaneous evidence of the Ramirez incident would, by tending to make it more believable. And then you have the witnesses who say he lied to Congress about drinking and sex. Even if you want to adhere to the rules of evidence in a criminal proceeding, that’s not good investigating. And I’d argue that the rules of evidence, while helpful, aren’t useful as the only standard. It’s a job application. An applicant who snarls, cries, evades questions and turns questions he doesn’t like back on the questioner in a rude, truculent way isn’t going to the top of the pile.

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Kavanaugh very close Cathaholic buddy McGahn (White House council) pulled off the coup and totally restricted any FBI investigation. Senator Jeff Flake got played. 12 total interviews!

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FRAUD! “Rigged”!

That shot=
Dog sniffing shit

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The fix is in.
Meet the new boss , same as the old boss
and yes we did get fooled again

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Nothing to see here, folks. Nothing to see.

The whole thing is a SHAM, just like POTUS.

A serial adulterer, slum lord, tax cheat, and racist mountebank, we had to look far and wide to find someone so indecent, so ignorant, so disgraceful, but we found him…and ELECTED HIM PRESIDENT!

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Repeat after me, “contemporaneous”.

ETA - and, “hearsay”. Which is inadmissible in a criminal trial.

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Exactly. It means that this is not a recent invention by the accuser.

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Didn’t Kavanaugh himself say that if it were true there would have been some discussion on campus about this so it would be ridiculous to interview the people that said the heard about it at the time. What would that prove? /s

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This sham is another offense against norms, one of many that will be hard to pin down later, when there’s nothing but the charred rubble of a state we used to have, as that point where it all went to shit beyond recovery. Probably passed that point already.

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My fear is that once back in power, the Democrats will again decide to be the adults in the room, and not go after these clowns aggressively, the path that Obama chose. It turns out that approach was just setting us up to get another collection of nutjobs.

Perhaps this time around, we shouldn’t “let bygones be bygones.” If we do so, reestablishing the boundaries of acceptable public behavior may prove impossible.

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All ya gotta say is “This too shall pass” and go on your merry way. Works all the time.

Where is Flake now that the sham investigation is “completed?” If he was sincere he should, at a minimum, be speaking up and saying he will vote no until an actual investigation is completed. If he has any ethics he should be flat out saying he will vote no due to the many examples of perjury and inability to act in a manner expected of a judge.

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No investigation of Kavanaugh perjury, either during last Thursday’s soliloquy and insulting answers to Democrat Senators or during the part of the hearing where he was claiming to have been a celibate altar boy from Little Flower Church.

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