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Not only the law itself, this lady took a personal oath to follow the law and at her swearing in she committed herself by saying she would follow the law to the letter (so help her God). So not only did she go against the law and the letter of that law she went against her oath before her God. And she’s done it publicly. In front of a judge.
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A doomed paleorepublican who is struggling with just what the darn heck to say right now. But still, people are paying more attention to him around here than they do to Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders. It’s like the democratic party fell into a black hole and this is all that’s left.
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Kasich is right, of course, but notice how he never bothers to include any of the high-profile supporters of Ms. Davis in his carefully worded judgment. “I’ll call her out,” Kasich basically says, “but don’t expect me to slam any of other Republican goofballs who advocate for Ms. Davis. That might cost me REAL VOTES!”
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The Liberty Counsel and Kimmi’s husband are telling a flat-out lie when they state that the licenses issued without her signature are null and void.
Revised Kentucky Statute:
402.240 County judge/executive to issue license in absence of clerk.
In the absence of the county clerk, or during a vacancy in the office, the county judge/executive may issue the license and, in so doing, he shall perform the duties and incur all the responsibilities of the clerk. The county judge/executive shall return a memorandum thereof to the clerk, and the memorandum shall be recorded as if the license had been issued by the clerk.
Effective: October 1, 1942
History: Recodified 1942 Ky. Acts ch. 208, sec. 1, effective October 1, 1942, from Ky. Stat. sec. 2113.
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Whoa a republican who knows the law.
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OK, so you don’t like the fact that Davis is sitting in jail. How would you get her to follow the law? Fines that would ultimately be paid not by her but by others? Jail and fines are the judges only 2 options and he chose the correct option for this woman. Let her rot in jail.
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“Now, I respect the fact that this lady doesn’t agree, but she’s also a government employee. She’s not running a church,” Kasich said on the Sunday program. “I wouldn’t force this on a church, but in terms of her responsibility I think she has to comply. I don’t think – I don’t like the fact that she’s sitting in a jail, that’s just absurd as well. But I think she should follow the law.”
And if she followed the law, she wouldn’t be in jail. See how easy that is to fix?
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He might have mentioned that she should just quit if she doesn’t want to do the job she was elected to do.
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Well, Mr. Kasich, if she has disobeyed the law and you say she shouldn’t be in jail and is not performing her duties, should she be at home collecting a paycheck? What would you call that?? I’ll give you a hint…it’s something that the Repubs rail against constantly.
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I am not surprised by this, or even the fact that he didn’t follow through to the obvious GOP conclusion and use it as a platform to rail against Obama’s lawlessness.
He is saving that for the debate in a few weeks, where this question will be raised in some fashion or other.
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That’ll right itself when a GOP winner emerges. The GOP field is filled with grown, petulant children. The Dems are too normal and speaking about boring things like the real issues plaguing our country. It’s much more entertaining to follow around the Republican, hateful creeps. When push comes to shove, the disparity between adult and child will be glaring, and Dems will take the headline…As in “Dems win the White House…Again!”
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There had to be some sort of poll released that said most people think Davis is wrong.
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Well, there are worse answers than that, God knows. It’s sad—any of these guys who want to come off as rational, thinking ahead to the general, have to heave big sighs about this supposed prisoner of conscience when what I’m fairly sure they say at home is that they heartily wish the woman had either done a) her fucking job or b) what a goddamn federal judge told her to do. Then they wouldn’t have to do these verbal contortions over a legal situation that’s as clear-cut as if she had embezzled $700,000 and gambled it away. Then there are the demagogues, theocrats, and craven weasels like Cruz, Huckabee, and Jindal who will throw the rule of law and legitimacy of governmental authority out the window like a candy wrapper if it gets them a couple of percentage points in Iowa or South Carolina. My mom used to have a saying: “Go ahead—be what they call you.” That’s what this is.
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The fact that she’s “sitting in jail” is an unfortunate situation thanks to her grifting lawyer.
Lady, he’s just not into you. Find a clue.
Kasich still does that repulsive wriggle room in spite of his statement.
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“Now, I respect the fact that this lady doesn’t agree, but she’s also a government employee.
She’s not running a church,” Kasich said on the Sunday program.
The only RWNJ that hasn’t gone completely off-the-rails.
Establishment (R) money will end up backing Kasich as the only remotely electable candidate left standing.
Kasich? Is the wolf-in-moderate-clothing that will be dressed-up for the independents.
jw1
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Re Kasich: Kim Davis
“A broken clock is right once a day”
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Regardless of Kasich’s apparent “moderate” stance and seemingly reasonable statement, this is not a cloudy issue and should never require him to limit this to “should follow the law”. The hypocritical clerk was blatantly forcing her religious beliefs upon the public whom she swore to serve. She deserves to lose her freedom for denying others theirs.
When the KY clerk gets her daily meals of bread and water, does she spread her bread with KY Jelly?
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Still, let’s be honest. Kasich deserves credit for taking the obvious political risk in saying the obvious in a the midst of the nastiest Republican primary I’ve ever seen, or since 1964 at least.
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Yes, I agree, Kasich is due some credit, but the issue of Ms. Davis ignoring the court order is no longer sufficiently localized that one can comment in a localized fashion. That’s what Kasich is doing here, so I’m not going “all in” on applauding him.